If I want to write a message to "ALL"... what do I have to do in WINS to send a
message to all the users...


Thanx
Joe

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In the TO: field send to: All

Exmple:

TO: All
Subject: Test Message


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In the TO: field send to: All

Exmple:

TO: All
Subject: Test Message

All just leaves a message posted to ALL..... I want to carbon copy the same message to every user.

Thanx anyway...

Joe

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>If I want to write a message to "ALL"... what do I have to do in WINS to sen
>message to all the users...


"All" usually sends the message to "All."
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On 13 Jul 2020, Robert Wolfe said the following...

>If I want to write a message to "ALL"... what do I have to do in WINS t
>message to all the users...

"All" usually sends the message to "All."

Nope, it doesn't. Writing a message to All in WINServer is like write a message to ALL in a FidoNET echo. a cc is not sent out to all your users. Most BBS packages have this feature. I left a message on the WINServer listserver and what I found out is that I would need to buy the wcReports package. Santronics, or Mustang Software, made a choice at some point to spread needed features over 2, 3 or 4 different programs so that a SysOP was forced to buy 2, 3 or 4 different programs. I have spent soooooo much money over the years supporting Santronics.... I am just not going to spend an
other dime so that I can cc a message to all my users.

Anyway, Thanx

IB Joe
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SysOp of Joe's BBS
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Joe

I read the Santronics Lists I did see your message.

As you were told you can use a Distribution Group to send a private
message to all users you do not need wcReports.

Regards

Ron
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On 15 Jul 2020, RON PETERS said the following...

Joe

I read the Santronics Lists I did see your message.

As you were told you can use a Distribution Group to send a private message to all users you do not need wcReports.

I thought Hector added the feature a while back.... and I asked and I've had
no response...
Anyway, good enough!!

IB Joe
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"All" usually sends the message to "All."

Nope, it doesn't. Writing a message to All in WINServer is like
write a message to ALL in a FidoNET echo. a cc is not sent out to
all your users. Most BBS packages have this feature. I left a
message on the WINServer listserver and what I found out is that I
would need to buy the wcReports package. Santronics, or Mustang
Software, made a choice at some point to spread needed features over
2, 3 or 4 different programs so that a SysOP was forced to buy 2, 3
or 4 different programs. I have spent soooooo much over the years supporting Santronics.... I am just not going to spe other dime so
that I can cc a message to all my users.

So you are wanting to send the same message at once to every user on your system individually? Seems like an easy job for a wcCODE module to me. But, you are right. A lot of other BBS packages do have this feature built in.


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On 17 Jul 2020, Robert Wolfe said the following...

"All" usually sends the message to "All."

Nope, it doesn't. Writing a message to All in WINServer is like
write a message to ALL in a FidoNET echo. a cc is not sent out to
all your users. Most BBS packages have this feature. I left a
message on the WINServer listserver and what I found out is that I would need to buy the wcReports package. Santronics, or Mustang Software, made a choice at some point to spread needed features over
2, 3 or 4 different programs so that a SysOP was forced to buy 2, 3
or 4 different programs. I have spent soooooo much over the years supporting Santronics.... I am just not going to spe other dime so
that I can cc a message to all my users.

So you are wanting to send the same message at once to every user on your system individually? Seems like an easy job for a wcCODE module to me. But, you are right. A lot of other BBS packages do have this feature built in.

I know most, if not all, other packages have that built into the package.
Most of these packages are free, and even under development as well. I just paid a few hundred dollars to get the latest version, up to speed on the
AUP... whatever...
I am a hobbiest. I really don't care about all the extended features some people may want to use.... I have always leaned towards the terminal side. I may just keep WINServer as a game server, I have a load of wcx games registered.... Not sure exactly what do do... we'll see ... Mystic has everything I want, and more, but I talked myself out of that and paid money Santronics...

fTelnet kicking my ass like it's 2020 for the rest of my life... learning some Linux along the way... installed apache web server on my pi to see if I'd get the same error with a different web server.... and YES I did... piss me off.

More to come....:)

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Hello Joe

Hector Santos added the Distribution List option back in 2004.
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So you are wanting to send the same message at once to every user
system individually? Seems like an easy job for a wcCODE module
But, you are right. A lot of other BBS packages do have this fea
built in.

I know most, if not all, other packages have that built into the
package. Most of these packages are free, and even under development
as well. I just paid a few hundred dollars to get the latest
version, up to speed on the AUP... whatever...
I am a hobbiest. I really don't care about all the extended
features some people may want to use.... I have always leaned
towards the terminal side. I may just keep WINServer as a game
server, I have a load of wcx games registered.... Not sure exactly
what do do... we'll see ... Mystic has everything I want, and more,
but I talked myself out of that and paid money Santronics...

Yeah, I understand completely. I lean more toward the ANSI side of the BBS myself, which is why I put totally no work into the HTML side of my WINServer system.


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As you were told you can use a Distribution Group to send a private
message to all users you do not need wcReports.

So is this a feature built into WINServer itself (as I do not recall seeing such a feature built in, unless I overlooked it because I do not use that feature) or are you referring to wcListServe? If the latter, that's an additional package that one has to pay for.


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Hector Santos added the Distribution List option back in 2004.

Where?


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On 16 Jul 2020, RON PETERS said the following...

Hello Joe

Hector Santos added the Distribution List option back in 2004.

Interesting.... and you do it how??

IB Joe
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SysOp of Joe's BBS
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Hi Joe

This is a cut and paste of the reply sent to you in the Santronics List:

It would probably be best to follow it up there should you need to do
so.

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Messages to ALL are not permitted in Conference: #0 via the
ANSI/Terminal interface.

Conference 0 is intended for Private EMail and To "ALL" Opens up the
risks of SPAM and Private Messages accidentally being sent to ALL.

The Capitalized "ALL" can be used in other Conferences as a valid Public
"TO ALL" message Address.

If you have a small user base you can create a Group Distribution List
and use it in association with Any Conference.

For Example:

A plain text file Group List:

\wcat\disp\group1.lst

comprising a name on each line

Bob Brown
Jane Doe
John Smith

Can then be used to Address a Message TO: GROUP 1

Which would send a CC Copy to users in the Distribution List Group 1

wcBASIC and the wcBASIC PLUS pack can if desired be used to completely customize the behavior of the ANSI Mail Interface.

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On 17 Jul 2020, RON PETERS said the following...

Hi Joe

This is a cut and paste of the reply sent to you in the Santronics List:

It would probably be best to follow it up there should you need to do
so.

---- Cut from SSI ----

Messages to ALL are not permitted in Conference: #0 via the
ANSI/Terminal interface.

Conference 0 is intended for Private EMail and To "ALL" Opens up the
risks of SPAM and Private Messages accidentally being sent to ALL.

The Capitalized "ALL" can be used in other Conferences as a valid Public "TO ALL" message Address.

If you have a small user base you can create a Group Distribution List
and use it in association with Any Conference.

For Example:

A plain text file Group List:

\wcat\disp\group1.lst

comprising a name on each line

Bob Brown
Jane Doe
John Smith

Can then be used to Address a Message TO: GROUP 1

Which would send a CC Copy to users in the Distribution List Group 1

wcBASIC and the wcBASIC PLUS pack can if desired be used to completely customize the behavior of the ANSI Mail Interface.

Tried it again... and a message to ALL in a local area, not area 0, is
nothing more than a message addressed to ALL.

BBS software that hasn't been worked on since the early 90's had that feature...

I know that the terminal side of WINServer is a little lite on features,
unless you knoqw how to program in wcBasic, se're stuck. WINServer should
have a message to "ALL" built into it and as well an ability to let the users have a signature file... on the terminal side.

I got my ass kicked on 2 projects... adding the ssl certificates to the web server... not hard if you knew what to do... and as well I had issues with fTelnet

Anyway, that's behind me...

:)

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On 17 Jul 2020, Robert Wolfe said the following...

"All" usually sends the message to "All."

Nope, it doesn't. Writing a message to All in WINServer is like
write a message to ALL in a FidoNET echo. a cc is not sent out to
all your users. Most BBS packages have this feature. I left a
message on the WINServer listserver and what I found out is that I would need to buy the wcReports package. Santronics, or Mustang Software, made a choice at some point to spread needed features over
2, 3 or 4 different programs so that a SysOP was forced to buy 2, 3
or 4 different programs. I have spent soooooo much over the years supporting Santronics.... I am just not going to spe other dime so
that I can cc a message to all my users.

So you are wanting to send the same message at once to every user on your system individually? Seems like an easy job for a wcCODE module to me. But, you are right. A lot of other BBS packages do have this feature built in.

Yes

IB Joe
AKA Joe Schweier
SysOp of Joe's BBS
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On 16 Jul 2020, RON PETERS said the following...

Hello Joe

Hector Santos added the Distribution List option back in 2004.

Interesting.... and you do it how??

This is what I would like to know.


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Hi Joe

This is a cut and paste of the reply sent to you in the Santronics
List:
It would probably be best to follow it up there should you need to do
so.

[...]

A plain text file Group List:

\wcat\disp\group1.lst

comprising a name on each line

Bob Brown
Jane Doe
John Smith

Can then be used to Address a Message TO: GROUP 1

[...]

wcBASIC and the wcBASIC PLUS pack can if desired be used to
completely customize the behavior of the ANSI Mail Interface.

This might be the best way to go, IMO. I might have to come up with some wcCODE to help out this this process :)


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On 19 Jul 2020, Robert Wolfe said the following...

[...]

A plain text file Group List:

\wcat\disp\group1.lst

comprising a name on each line

Bob Brown
Jane Doe
John Smith

Can then be used to Address a Message TO: GROUP 1

[...]

wcBASIC and the wcBASIC PLUS pack can if desired be used to
completely customize the behavior of the ANSI Mail Interface.

This might be the best way to go, IMO. I might have to come up with some wcCODE to help out this this process :)

Keep me posted...

IB Joe
AKA Joe Schweier
SysOp of Joe's BBS
-= JoesBBS.Com =-

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wcBASIC and the wcBASIC PLUS pack can if desired be used to completely customize the behavior of the ANSI Mail Interface.

This might be the best way to go, IMO. I might have to come up w
wcCODE to help out this this process :)

Keep me posted...

I saved the original message Hector sent. I have not had a chance to start on anything yet as real life has been keeping me quite busy of late :) But, will probably try and get something started this weekend if at all possible.


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wcBASIC and the wcBASIC PLUS pack can if desired be used to completely customize the behavior of the ANSI Mail Interface.

This might be the best way to go, IMO. I might have to come up w wcCODE to help out this this process :)

Keep me posted...

I saved the original message Hector sent. I have not had a chance to start on
anything yet as real life has been keeping me quite busy of late :) But, will
probably try and get something started this weekend if at all possible.

It would be good to see this. I finally fixed my issue with the message
tag going into the from field... piss me off... the hours and hours that
went into that.

I understand how powerful the WINServer package is... but the terminal
side is stuck in the 90's ... most if not all BBS packages have the
SysOp message to all.... Signature files as well... Anyway, it is just
a hobby

You have a program that I would like to get a copy of... and that's the program that asks you a math question as you login.. Did you write that
or is it something you found??

Thanx

Joe



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It would be good to see this. I finally fixed my issue with the
message tag going into the from field... piss me off... the hours
and hours that went into that.

I can understand that all too, too well.

I understand how powerful the WINServer package is... but the
terminal side is stuck in the 90's ... most if not all BBS packages
have the SysOp message to all.... Signature files as well...
Anyway, it is just a hobby

Actually, I made a modification to the line editor on my WINS system that will let you add (optionally) taglines to the end of messages, the same modification could be "modified" to add signature files as well easily enough. However, this was done modifying the EDITOR.WCC file which is part of the optional wcBASIC Plus Pack.

You have a program that I would like to get a copy of... and that's
the program that asks you a math question as you login.. Did you
write that or is it something you found??

Actually, I wrote the modification myself based on an idea presented by Matt Munson on Inland Utopia BBS. Unfortunately, like the previously mentioned editor modification, it, too, requires the wcBASIC Plus Pack in order for the modification to be placed where it is.


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wcBASIC and the wcBASIC PLUS pack can if desired be used to completely customize the behavior of the ANSI Mail Interface.

This might be the best way to go, IMO. I might have to come up w wcCODE to help out this this process :)

Keep me posted...

I saved the original message Hector sent. I have not had a chance to sta

on

anything yet as real life has been keeping me quite busy of late :) But,

will

probably try and get something started this weekend if at all possible.

It would be good to see this. I finally fixed my issue with the message tag going into the from field... piss me off... the hours and hours that went into that.

I understand how powerful the WINServer package is... but the terminal
side is stuck in the 90's ... most if not all BBS packages have the
SysOp message to all.... Signature files as well... Anyway, it is just
a hobby

You have a program that I would like to get a copy of... and that's the program that asks you a math question as you login.. Did you write that
or is it something you found??

Thanx

Joe

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Yeah, planning on adding optional signature file usage on my bbs in the message areas soon.

... I visited cyberspace and all I got was this lousy tagline
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Joe

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Yeah, planning on adding optional signature file usage on my bbs in the message areas soon.

Thanx... I went the way of Mystic BBS though.... I have run WC5 for years.... Ths time around I have come to the oppinion that the terminal side of WINS is stuck in the 80s and 90s. I spent a couple hundred dollars to blow life back into the BBS... paid for AUP and had install disks mailed to me.

And I went with the BBS program that I talked myself out of when I sent Santronics my 200 bucks.

I'll set my WINServer up as some kind of door server because of all the games
I have registered for it.

:)

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