This is why KityMail sucks:

==================================================
C:\WC5>wcrun -r kitymail scan

Loging onto System
Logon completed
Now checking Regestration information.


D E M O M O D E D E L A Y

Thank you for trying out the Kitymail evaluation program.
You are free to use this version for as long as you live.

I now need to anoy you somehow so you will think about registering Kitymail.
I know, I think I will delay starting the program for 30 seconds plus
10 sec. for each month it's been since you picked up the last demo key

If that seens too long, Get a new key from Someplace to Start BBS.
Or better still, Regester this program.
About to delay 2970 sec.
Thats because your key is 25 years and -6 months old. 2970..........2960..........2950..........2940..........2930..........

...
...
...

Skipping Conference TEXAS_REUNIONS, addressed to 440:113/1, NO new messages. Skipping Conference UK&I_GENE, addressed to 440:113/1, NO new messages. Skipping Conference WISCONSIN.GEN, addressed to 440:113/1, NO new messages. Packed 0 messages to 440:113/1

Packed 0 Total messages this pass.
Unable to save pointers because areas.red not loaded. C:\WC5\KITYMAIL\BINK32\OUTBOUND\0112001e.Su0


C:\WC5\KITYMAIL\BINK32\OUTBOUND.1b8\00710001.Su0


WCCODE error (kitymail.wcx: 30440): Invalid file number, press Enter...

C:\WC5>
==================================================
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Oh My! Who wrote that program?

...Thomas

On 2/28/2021 5:01 PM, Marceline Jones wrote to ALL:

@TZUTC: -0800
@MSGID: 1103.wildcat!@1:103/705 24a078b9
@PID: Synchronet 3.18c-Win32 master/16690e16f Feb 22 2021 MSC 1928
@TID: SBBSecho 3.13-Linux master/160606e4c Feb 22 2021 GCC 8.3.0
@BBSID: VERT
@CHRS: ASCII 1
This is why KityMail sucks:

==================================================
C:\WC5>wcrun -r kitymail scan

Loging onto System
Logon completed
Now checking Regestration information.

D E M O M O D E D E L A Y

Thank you for trying out the Kitymail evaluation program.
You are free to use this version for as long as you live.

I now need to anoy you somehow so you will think about registering Kitymail. I know, I think I will delay starting the program for 30 seconds plus
10 sec. for each month it's been since you picked up the last demo key

If that seens too long, Get a new key from Someplace to Start BBS.
Or better still, Regester this program.
About to delay 2970 sec.
Thats because your key is 25 years and -6 months old. 2970..........2960..........2950..........2940..........2930..........

...
...
...

Skipping Conference TEXAS_REUNIONS, addressed to 440:113/1, NO new messages. Skipping Conference UK&I_GENE, addressed to 440:113/1, NO new messages. Skipping Conference WISCONSIN.GEN, addressed to 440:113/1, NO new messages. Packed 0 messages to 440:113/1

Packed 0 Total messages this pass.
Unable to save pointers because areas.red not loaded. C:\WC5\KITYMAIL\BINK32\OUTBOUND\0112001e.Su0

C:\WC5\KITYMAIL\BINK32\OUTBOUND.1b8\00710001.Su0

WCCODE error (kitymail.wcx: 30440): Invalid file number, press Enter...

C:\WC5>
==================================================
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--- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v7.0
* Origin: --- Nothing is so simple that it can't get screwed up. (1:116/110)

Oh My! Who wrote that program?

Some guy called "John Long" whose contact details no longer exist ("John.Long@1:100/630" or "[email protected]").

According to him 25 years and 6 months equates to a 2970 seconds unregistered delay.

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Re: RE: KityMail
By: Marceline Jones to THOMAS KLOOS on Sun Mar 07 2021 18:06:00

According to him 25 years and 6 months equates to a 2970 seconds unregistered delay.

no, that is incorrect... that's not "according to him"... that's a defect in the program from using too small a variable type to store the number of seconds in... effectively what you are seeing is modulo arithmetic also known
as rollover where the counter rolls over to the lowest end of the range when the value exceeds the maximum value...

|===================================================================|
|Type Range Size in bytes| |===================================================================|
|Byte 0 .. 255 1|
|Shortint -128 .. 127 1|
|Smallint -32768 .. 32767 2|
|Word 0 .. 65535 2|
|Integer either smallint or longint size 2 or 4|
|Cardinal longword 4|
|Longint -2147483648 .. 2147483647 4|
|Longword 0 .. 4294967295 4|
|Int64 -9223372036854775808 .. 9223372036854775807 8|
|QWord 0 .. 18446744073709551615 8| |===================================================================|

back when the program was written Longword, Int64, and QWord likely did not exist... Byte and Word were the only numerical entities with no negative capabilities...

in short, it is simply numeric rollover due to using too small a variable type for the number being stored...


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BY: Marceline Jones(1:103/705)


|11MJ|09> |10This is why KityMail sucks:|07
|11MJ|09> |07
|11MJ|09> |10==================================================|07
|11MJ|09> |10C:\WC5>wcrun -r kitymail scan|07
|11MJ|09> |07
Might have to swallow your pride and register (purchase) a licence for PX.


--- WWIV 5.7.0.3446
* Origin: Inland Utopia BBS * iutopia.duckdns.org:2023 (1:218/109)

Marceline... Quick question...

What is your OS??

Joe
--- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v7.0
* Origin: Joe's BBS -=joesbbs.com=- (1:342/200)

According to him 25 years and 6 months equates to a 2970 seconds unregistered delay.

no, that is incorrect... that's not "according to him"... that's a
defect in the program from using too small a variable type to store
the number of seconds in... effectively what you are seeing is modulo arithmetic also known as rollover where the counter rolls over to the lowest end of the range when the value exceeds the maximum value...

Nah.

The jerk knew what he was doing.

He says so himself in the nagware splash screen:

==================================================
I now need to anoy you somehow so you will think about registering Kitymail.
I know, I think I will delay starting the program for 30 seconds plus
10 sec. for each month it's been since you picked up the last demo key ==================================================

The key file is dated:

==================================================
12/12/1996 09:13p 52 DEMO.KEY ==================================================

which is 24 years, 1 month and 25 days from when I ran it. (So it appears the file contains a date that is itself at least 1.5 years old).

His short-sightedness is confirmed in the documentation:

==================================================
The demo / evaluation versions will have delays and annoying noises built in to encourage you to register KITYMAIL. The delay on start up will originally be 30 sec but will increase by 10 seconds each month, based on the age of your KITYMAIL key file. Other delays and annoying noise will occur every 100th message processed. Newer version of the KITYMAIL key file will be available on the "Someplace to Start" BBS and will be distributed freely to other BBS's. Feel free to get a newer key for KITYMAIL whenever the delay gets too long for you or better still, why not register KITYMAIL?
==================================================

He just wants people to call his BBS to artificially inflate his ego.

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|11MJ|09> |10This is why KityMail sucks:|07
|11MJ|09> |07
|11MJ|09> |10==================================================|07 |11MJ|09> |10C:\WC5>wcrun -r kitymail scan|07
|11MJ|09> |07

Might have to swallow your pride and register (purchase) a licence for
PX.

How long would it take hell to freeze over ?

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Marceline... Quick question...

What is your OS??

I run a few:

- Digital Research CP/M 3.0 GEOS
- MS-DOS 5, 6.22
- Windows 3.0, 3.1, 3.11, WFW, 95, 98, NT, TSE, 2000 Workstation & Server, XP, 7 Ultimate, 10 Enterprise
- Red Hat 5.1, 6.2, 7.0, 9
- Fedora 12, 13
- RHEL 5
- CentOS 6
- Minix 2.0.4
- ReactOS 0.3.12

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Quoting Marceline Jones to Ib Joe <=-

Marceline... Quick question...
What is your OS??

I run a few:

- Digital Research CP/M 3.0 GEOS
- MS-DOS 5, 6.22
- Windows 3.0, 3.1, 3.11, WFW, 95, 98, NT, TSE, 2000 Workstation &
Server, XP, 7 Ultimate, 10 Enterprise
- Red Hat 5.1, 6.2, 7.0, 9
- Fedora 12, 13
- RHEL 5
- CentOS 6
- Minix 2.0.4
- ReactOS 0.3.12

Is Missing an OS/2, eComStation or ArcaOS. :-)



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Re: Re: KityMail
By: Marceline Jones to MARK LEWIS on Sun Mar 14 2021 16:46:00

The jerk knew what he was doing.

there's no need for name calling, really...

He says so himself in the nagware splash screen:

there's nothing wrong with that... many programmers did similar and still do, today...

His short-sightedness is confirmed in the documentation:

what short-sightedness?

Newer version of the KITYMAIL key file will be available on the
"Someplace to Start" BBS and will be distributed freely to other
BBS's.
He just wants people to call his BBS to artificially inflate his ego.

for some reason, you seem to have missed the last part of that sentence... "will be distributed to other BBS's[sic]"...

in any case, if the software doesn't meet your needs, don't use it... complaining won't change anything...


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Re: Re: KityMail
By: Marceline Jones to MATT MUNSON on Sun Mar 14 2021 16:47:00

How long would it take hell to freeze over ?

hell, michigan, has frozen many times over the last several decades... i don't know how long that actually took, though... only that hell (michigan) has frozen ;)


)\/(ark
--- SBBSecho 3.11-Linux
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On 14 Mar 2021, Marceline Jones said the following...

Marceline... Quick question...

What is your OS??

I run a few:

I made an assumption you had something modern... and most of what I told you I assumed you had something reasonably current... and Not DOS 5 or something.

Anyway...
I cannot wait to see what your BBS will look like!!

IB Joe
AKA Joe Schweier
SysOp of Joe's BBS
-=JoesBBS.com=-

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/01/16 (Raspberry Pi/32)
* Origin: JoesBBS.Com, Telnet:2323 SSH:2222 HTTP:80 (1:342/201)

BY: Marceline Jones(1:103/705)

He just wants people to call his BBS to artificially inflate his ego.

Or get the next version.
But sadly bbses started to fade out around that time.

Might be easier to just use some of that 1400 from the US Government to buy a PXW licence from the Santronics people.


--- WWIV 5.7.0.3462
* Origin: Inland Utopia BBS * iutopia.duckdns.org:2023 (1:218/109)

|11MJ|09> |10This is why KityMail sucks:|07
|11MJ|09> |07
|11MJ|09> |10==================================================|07 |11MJ|09> |10C:\WC5>wcrun -r kitymail scan|07
|11MJ|09> |07

Might have to swallow your pride and register (purchase) a licence for PX.

How long would it take hell to freeze over ?

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I would have to agree. Might be best to just buck p and buy PX and
save youself a LOT of headache.

... I'm too sexy for this Tagline.
--- Wildcat! v8.0.454.10 (May 26 2020), Editor Mod v2.1
* Origin: Omicron Theta * Southaven MS * winserver.org (1:116/18)

Marceline... Quick question...

What is your OS??

I run a few:

- Digital Research CP/M 3.0 GEOS
- MS-DOS 5, 6.22
- Windows 3.0, 3.1, 3.11, WFW, 95, 98, NT, TSE, 2000 Workstation & Server, X
7 Ultimate, 10 Enterprise
- Red Hat 5.1, 6.2, 7.0, 9
- Fedora 12, 13
- RHEL 5
- CentOS 6
- Minix 2.0.4
- ReactOS 0.3.12

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I THINK he meant what OS do you run WINServer under?

... I'll write no Tagline before its time.
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* Origin: Omicron Theta * Southaven MS * winserver.org (1:116/18)

Re: Re: KityMail
By: Marceline Jones to MATT MUNSON on Sun Mar 14 2021 16:47:00

How long would it take hell to freeze over ?

hell, michigan, has frozen many times over the last several decades... i don
know how long that actually took, though... only that hell (michigan) has frozen ;)

)\/(ark
--- SBBSecho 3.11-Linux
* Origin: SouthEast Star Mail HUB - SESTAR (1:3634/12)

ROTLFMAO!!!!! Love this! :)

... Give ya a fin for a Tagline...
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On 15 Mar 2021, Robert Wolfe said the following...

I THINK he meant what OS do you run WINServer under?

No... I thought I made fatal error where I wrote for hours not truly understanding what she was running as an OS... Nick Andre chimed in to say D'Bridge can still be run on a XT with 640K of RAM...

So, apparently whatever she does she'll be good to go with DB as her mailer.

:)

IB Joe
AKA Joe Schweier
SysOp of Joe's BBS
-=JoesBBS.com=-

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/01/16 (Raspberry Pi/32)
* Origin: JoesBBS.Com, Telnet:2323 SSH:2222 HTTP:80 (1:342/201)

On 15 Mar 2021, Robert Wolfe said the following...

I THINK he meant what OS do you run WINServer under?

No... I thought I made fatal error where I wrote for hours not truly understanding what she was running as an OS... Nick Andre chimed in to say D'Bridge can still be run on a XT with 640K of RAM...

So, apparently whatever she does she'll be good to go with DB as her mailer.

:)

IB Joe
AKA Joe Schweier
SysOp of Joe's BBS
-=JoesBBS.com=-

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/01/16 (Raspberry Pi/32)
* Origin: JoesBBS.Com, Telnet:2323 SSH:2222 HTTP:80 (1:342/201)

As long as she has something that will toss and scan packets to/from
WINS.

... He who dies with the most Taglines WINS!
--- Wildcat! v8.0.454.10 (May 26 2020), Editor Mod v2.1
* Origin: Omicron Theta * Southaven MS * winserver.org (1:116/18)

On 16 Mar 2021, Robert Wolfe said the following...

As long as she has something that will toss and scan packets to/from WINS.

She had been talking about WV4 for a bit.... She has been looking at DOS platforms... and I just wanted to ask a few more questions ... But it is too bad that there isn't any quick fixes to get mail in and out of WINServer with out putting up the money for PXW...

IB Joe
AKA Joe Schweier
SysOp of Joe's BBS
-=JoesBBS.com=-

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/01/16 (Raspberry Pi/32)
* Origin: JoesBBS.Com, Telnet:2323 SSH:2222 HTTP:80 (1:342/201)

On 16 Mar 2021, Robert Wolfe said the following...

As long as she has something that will toss and scan packets to/from WINS.

She had been talking about WV4 for a bit.... She has been looking at DOS platforms... and I just wanted to ask a few more questions ... But it is too
bad that there isn't any quick fixes to get mail in and out of WINServer wit
out putting up the money for PXW...

IB Joe
AKA Joe Schweier
SysOp of Joe's BBS
-=JoesBBS.com=-

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/01/16 (Raspberry Pi/32)
* Origin: JoesBBS.Com, Telnet:2323 SSH:2222 HTTP:80 (1:342/201)

I agree.

... Nothing funny to post as a Tagline, this trip.
--- Wildcat! v8.0.454.10 (May 26 2020), Editor Mod v2.1
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I THINK he meant what OS do you run WINServer under?

I run WC4 under DESQview 2.8 and MSDOS 6.22, and WC5 on Windows 2000 Server.

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Marceline... Quick question...

What is your OS??

I run a few:

I made an assumption you had something modern... and most of what I
told you I assumed you had something reasonably current... and Not DOS
5 or something.

Pre-2000 software offers a more accurate and authentic experience.

DOS 5.0 runs fine in a virtual machine.

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On 21 Mar 2021, Marceline Jones said the following...

Pre-2000 software offers a more accurate and authentic experience.

DOS 5.0 runs fine in a virtual machine.

I cannot wait to see the finished product....

IB Joe
AKA Joe Schweier
SysOp of Joe's BBS
-=JoesBBS.com=-

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A47 2021/01/16 (Raspberry Pi/32)
* Origin: JoesBBS.Com, Telnet:2323 SSH:2222 HTTP:80 (1:342/201)

He just wants people to call his BBS to artificially inflate his ego.

Or get the next version.
But sadly bbses started to fade out around that time.

Might be easier to just use some of that 1400 from the US Government
to buy a PXW licence from the Santronics people.

No way. I am going to spend it on the next hot tip from WallStreetBets.

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Is Missing an OS/2, eComStation or ArcaOS. :-)

Because I only had OS/2 Warp 4 installed on a 486DX2-66 for less than 1 week. I was unimpressed with the lack of a simple Windows/File explorer, and navigating folders via menu dropdowns was too weird.

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there's no need for name calling, really...

I will describe him as a contemptibly foolish person instead (aka JERK).

He says so himself in the nagware splash screen:

there's nothing wrong with that... many programmers did similar and
still do, today...

Which is why a lot of old shareware is useless today.

His short-sightedness is confirmed in the documentation:

what short-sightedness?

The kind that makes programs useless after 25 years.

Newer version of the KITYMAIL key file will be available on the
"Someplace to Start" BBS and will be distributed freely to other
BBS's.
He just wants people to call his BBS to artificially inflate his ego.

for some reason, you seem to have missed the last part of that
sentence... "will be distributed to other BBS's[sic]"...

What good is that when those BBS's no longer exist.

in any case, if the software doesn't meet your needs, don't use it... complaining won't change anything...

Complaining did change something.

KITYMAIL.BAT:
==================================================
date 01/01/1996
wcrun -r kitymail %*
==================================================

(Now it just stalls for 10 seconds instead of 50 minutes).

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Re: Re: KityMail
By: Marceline Jones to MARK LEWIS on Tue Mar 23 2021 23:52:00

in any case, if the software doesn't meet your needs, don't use it... complaining won't change anything...

Complaining did change something.

not really...

KITYMAIL.BAT:
==================================================
date 01/01/1996
wcrun -r kitymail %*
==================================================

you did that :shrug:


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Quoting Marceline Jones to Mauro Veiga <=-

Is Missing an OS/2, eComStation or ArcaOS. :-)

Because I only had OS/2 Warp 4 installed on a 486DX2-66 for less than
1 week. I was unimpressed with the lack of a simple Windows/File explorer, and navigating folders via menu dropdowns was too weird.

I agree.
I love ZTREE but is paid.


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Hello Mauro!

14 Mar 2021 10:20, Mauro Veiga wrote to MARCELINE JONES:

Quoting Marceline Jones to Ib Joe <=-

Marceline... Quick question...
What is your OS??

I run a few:

- Digital Research CP/M 3.0 GEOS
- MS-DOS 5, 6.22
- Windows 3.0, 3.1, 3.11, WFW, 95, 98, NT, TSE, 2000 Workstation &
Server, XP, 7 Ultimate, 10 Enterprise
- Red Hat 5.1, 6.2, 7.0, 9
- Fedora 12, 13
- RHEL 5
- CentOS 6
- Minix 2.0.4
- ReactOS 0.3.12

Is Missing an OS/2, eComStation or ArcaOS. :-)

missing slackware, gentoo, funtoo, pentoo, systemresquecd, opensuse


Regards Benny

... too late to die young :)

--- Msged/LNX 6.1.2 (Linux/5.11.8-gentoo-r1-x86_64 (x86_64))
* Origin: I will always keep a PC running CPM 3.0 (2:230/0)

complaining won't change anything...

Complaining did change something.

not really...

KITYMAIL.BAT:
==================================================
date 01/01/1996
wcrun -r kitymail %*
==================================================

you did that :shrug:

Because I complained.

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Is Missing an OS/2, eComStation or ArcaOS. :-)

Because I only had OS/2 Warp 4 installed on a 486DX2-66 for less than 1 week. ->I
was unimpressed with the lack of a simple Windows/File explorer, and ->navigating
folders via menu dropdowns was too weird.

Windows, too, had a learning curve at one time. Then again, you must not have explored the Win-OS/2 portion of OS/2, eComStation and ArcaOS.



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Re: Re: KityMail
By: Marceline Jones to MARK LEWIS on Sat Mar 27 2021 10:13:00

KITYMAIL.BAT:
==================================================
date 01/01/1996
wcrun -r kitymail %*
==================================================

you did that :shrug:

Because I complained.

you are mixing up causality and correlation... the above was not done because you complained... it was done because you wanted/needed to change it... two separate and distinct things...


)\/(ark
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there's no need for name calling, really...

I will describe him as a contemptibly foolish person instead (aka JERK).

He says so himself in the nagware splash screen:

there's nothing wrong with that... many programmers did similar and still do, today...

Which is why a lot of old shareware is useless today.

His short-sightedness is confirmed in the documentation:

what short-sightedness?

The kind that makes programs useless after 25 years.

Newer version of the KITYMAIL key file will be available on the "Someplace to Start" BBS and will be distributed freely to other BBS's.
He just wants people to call his BBS to artificially inflate his ego.

for some reason, you seem to have missed the last part of that sentence... "will be distributed to other BBS's[sic]"...

What good is that when those BBS's no longer exist.

in any case, if the software doesn't meet your needs, don't use it... complaining won't change anything...

Complaining did change something.

KITYMAIL.BAT:
==================================================
date 01/01/1996
wcrun -r kitymail %*
==================================================

(Now it just stalls for 10 seconds instead of 50 minutes).

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Yeah, but the rest of the dates on your system are going to be messed
up.

... Welcome to the SICK and DEMENTED Taglines Conference.
--- Wildcat! v8.0.454.10 (May 26 2020), Editor Mod v2.1
* Origin: Omicron Theta * Southaven MS * winserver.org (1:116/18)

KITYMAIL.BAT:
==================================================
date 01/01/1996
wcrun -r kitymail %*
==================================================

(Now it just stalls for 10 seconds instead of 50 minutes).

Yeah, but the rest of the dates on your system are going to be messed
up.

Nah. KityMail takes 3 seconds to initialise, on the 8th second the Windows Time Server resynchronises, on the 13th second (after the 10 second unregistered delay) the program starts executing with the correct system date. Heh.

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you did that :shrug:

Because I complained.

you are mixing up causality and correlation... the above was not done because you complained... it was done because you wanted/needed to
change it... two separate and distinct things...

Merely wanting or needing KityMail to work did not provide the necessary motivation for change. A loathing of authors who implement stupid delays in their software did that, and therefore caused the change.

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