• Palling around with Liz

    From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to All on Tue Oct 22 13:57:52 2024
    Liz Cheney is a ship that has already sank. To refresh: she was a Republican US rep from Wyoming, she voted to impeach Trump, so then her constituents fired her.

    Now Alex Soros has Kamala associating herself with the now-disgraced former Republican rep to trick voters into thinking that Republicans are voting for Kamala.

    I thought elitists knew better than this? They seem smart a lot of the time. They would have yielded more idiots if they paired Kamala up with an actual sitting Republican official (and not one who's on thin ice with voters.)

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Tue Oct 22 14:18:10 2024
    Liz Cheney is a ship that has already sank. To refresh: she was a Republican US rep from Wyoming, she voted to impeach Trump, so then her constituents fired her.

    Shots fired but Liz Cheney's ship still sails.

    Now Alex Soros has Kamala associating herself with the now-disgraced former Republican rep to trick voters into thinking that Republicans are voting for Kamala.

    Liz Cheney was never disgraced.

    Liz Cheney is a conservative who loves her country and will not bend the knee to Donald Trump.

    I thought elitists knew better than this? They seem smart a lot of the time. They would have yielded more idiots if they paired Kamala up with an actual sitting Republican official (and not one who's on thin ice with voters.)

    Liz Cheney does as she will. It has nothing to do with the "elite".

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Tue Oct 22 17:12:56 2024
    On 22 Oct 2024, Alan Ianson said the following...

    Liz Cheney was never disgraced.

    Liz Cheney is a conservative who loves her country and will not bend the knee to Donald Trump.


    Liz Cheney did exactly what her constituencies didn't want her to do... She was rejected in a way never seen before... She might have been a good tool fort the Uni-Party.

    Her loss in her election was epic.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Tue Oct 22 17:59:58 2024
    Now Alex Soros has Kamala associating herself with the now-disgraced for Republican rep to trick voters into thinking that Republicans are voting Kamala.

    Liz Cheney was never disgraced.

    Oxford Languages Dictionary:
    dis grace
    loss of reputation or respect as the result of a dishonorable action.

    Liz Cheney voted to impeach Trump, which was a dishonorable action, and it ruined her reputation and her constituents no longer respected her. They primaried her and voted her out off the ballot. She is literally the definition of "disgrace."

    Liz Cheney is a conservative who loves her country and will not bend the knee to Donald Trump.

    I'll give her this: She helped put us in the position we're in today.

    I thought elitists knew better than this? They seem smart a lot of the t They would have yielded more idiots if they paired Kamala up with an act sitting Republican official (and not one who's on thin ice with voters.)

    Liz Cheney does as she will. It has nothing to do with the "elite".

    To know that, you would have to know her personally. Her actions make it appear as if she's being paid by the elite, but neither of us could prove it one way or the other.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to IB Joe on Tue Oct 22 19:06:16 2024
    Liz Cheney did exactly what her constituencies didn't want her to do... She was rejected in a way never seen before... She might have been a good tool fort the Uni-Party.

    Uni-Party? Liz Cheney is an old school conservative.

    Her loss in her election was epic.

    Her integrity is intact.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Tue Oct 22 19:12:20 2024
    Oxford Languages Dictionary:
    dis grace
    loss of reputation or respect as the result of a dishonorable action.

    Liz Cheney did nothing dishonorable.

    Liz Cheney voted to impeach Trump, which was a dishonorable action, and it ruined her reputation and her constituents no longer respected her. They primaried her and voted her out off the ballot. She is literally the definition of "disgrace."

    She is the definition of conservative.

    Liz Cheney does as she will. It has nothing to do with the "elite".

    To know that, you would have to know her personally. Her actions make it appear as if she's being paid by the elite, but neither of us could prove it one way or the other.

    Lemme know if you get any facts you can prove one way or the other.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Tue Oct 22 21:00:36 2024
    definition of "disgrace."

    She is the definition of conservative.

    There's nothing conservative about supporting an administration that opened the border to millions of undocumented migrants.

    There's nothing conservative about supporting an administration that used leverage with the former Ukrainian president for personal gain.

    There's nothing conservative about supporting an administration that let more than 3000 people die along the US/Mexico border in less than 4 years' time.

    Saying/wishing stuff doesn't make it true.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Tue Oct 22 20:37:42 2024
    She is the definition of conservative.

    There's nothing conservative about supporting an administration that opened the border to millions of undocumented migrants.

    That didn't happen.

    There's nothing conservative about supporting an administration that used leverage with the former Ukrainian president for personal gain.

    That didn't happen.

    There's nothing conservative about supporting an administration that let more than 3000 people die along the US/Mexico border in less than 4 years' time.

    That didn't happen.

    Saying/wishing stuff doesn't make it true.

    Liz Cheney is a consevative. Donald Trump is not.

    That's not a wish, that's just the way it is.

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Wed Oct 23 07:55:55 2024
    Aaron Thomas wrote to All <=-

    I thought elitists knew better than this? They seem smart a lot of the time.

    They have retreated into their echo chamber. They can't see the real world anymore.

    They would have yielded more idiots if they paired Kamala up with
    an actual sitting Republican official (and not one who's on thin ice
    with voters.)

    Any "Republican" who got paired up with the Ho is either
    1) a known RINO and has no credibility.
    2) will be tagged as a RINO and will never get reelected.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Wed Oct 23 06:46:26 2024
    There's nothing conservative about supporting an administration that ope the border to millions of undocumented migrants.

    That didn't happen.

    You're more ridiculous than Lee. Lee knows what's going on.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Ron L. on Wed Oct 23 07:06:26 2024
    They would have yielded more idiots if they paired Kamala up with
    an actual sitting Republican official (and not one who's on thin ice with voters.)

    Any "Republican" who got paired up with the Ho is either
    1) a known RINO and has no credibility.
    2) will be tagged as a RINO and will never get reelected.

    Right, but Liz Cheney has already exposed herself. A more moderate RINO like Lindsey Graham would have been a better choice. But I think this will work out fine for us.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Wed Oct 23 07:34:40 2024
    On 22 Oct 2024, Alan Ianson said the following...

    Uni-Party? Liz Cheney is an old school conservative.


    She's not... The Democrats, and a lot still do, saw her and her father as war criminals. She may not be a "war criminal" but she is a warmonger. There wasn't a conflict that her and her daddy didn't like or want to start.


    Her integrity is intact.


    She has no integrity... She's a whore turning tricks... She's out on the campaign trail for a Marxist... Her party and constituents have rejected her.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to IB Joe on Wed Oct 23 13:22:50 2024
    Uni-Party? Liz Cheney is an old school conservative.

    She's not...

    I know you don't like her but she is an old school conservative.

    The Democrats, and a lot still do, saw her and her father as war
    criminals.

    That's another thing. We are not talking about Dick.

    She may not be a "war criminal" but she is a warmonger.

    I don't know her position on any war but I don't recall her advocating for any wars.

    There wasn't a conflict that her and her daddy didn't like or want to start.

    Republicans (of yesterday) tend to be that way.

    Her integrity is intact.

    She has no integrity...

    Yep, her integrity is intact. She never bent the knee or kissed the ring.

    She's a whore turning tricks...

    Is that so?

    She's out on the campaign trail for a Marxist...

    There are no Marxists running.

    Her party and constituents have rejected her.

    I'll give you that. It's for reasons like that that so many republicans did bend the knee and/or kiss the ring, to hold onto power.

    In spite of all that Liz Cheney has not and will not bend the knee. She has a spine.

    Indeed, her integrity is intact.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Thu Oct 24 13:31:28 2024
    On 23 Oct 2024, Alan Ianson said the following...


    I know you don't like her but she is an old school conservative.


    Alan, you have no clue.... The word or term conservative com e from the word conserve, or preserve. Republicans, excluding RINOs, are seen as constitutionalist... The want to preserve the constitution as it was written by the founding fathers. Moreover, more times than not, they are more pragmatic and are in tune with rule of law...

    RELAX, I'm going somewhere with this...

    If Liz was a conservative she would not have participated with the J6 comity... a few reasons... The J6 comity was called a Select Comity for a reason... This is... They usually let the minority select their representatives... The Republicans were to get 6 while the Democrats who have the majority were to get 7... This is normal... this is what they've done since the beginning of time.

    Nancy Pelosi said NO... You are only getting 2 representatives and you don't get to choose them... I do... and she chose Liz, who hated Trump along with Adam Kinzinger a feckless RINO... Adam works for CNN now... He didn't even try to run again he bowed out. Whereas Liz was primaried and suffered a humiliating loss.

    So, if Liz was an "Old School" Conservative she would have turned down the offer to be on the J6 comity because it was illegally formed and did not follow centuries old president.

    If Liz was an "Old School" Conservative she would have wanted her findings to be open to the public... Nancy et al. deleted and encrypted all the evidence files... That has never been done in US history.

    BTW, they have pieced together enough evidence to file an ethics complaint with the BAR... She was found to be colluding with witnesses during the J6 investigation.

    An "Old School" conservative would investigate something... They'd look for the truth and be open and frank about the results.

    Because she was none of this the voters in Wyoming overwhelmingly rejected her. They replaced her with an Old School Conservative.


    In spite of all that Liz Cheney has not and will not bend the knee. She has a spine.

    Indeed, her integrity is intact.


    Her integrity is not intact. She lost her seat and she's about to loose her law license

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to IB Joe on Thu Oct 24 21:20:10 2024
    Alan, you have no clue.... The word or term conservative com e from the word conserve, or preserve. Republicans, excluding RINOs, are seen as constitutionalist... The want to preserve the constitution as it was written by the founding fathers. Moreover, more times than not, they are more pragmatic and are in tune with rule of law...

    I know exactly what a conservative is, and Liz Cheney is a conservative and a republican. What she is not is MAGA.

    There is nothing pragmatic about the MAGA movement. They do not care about the rule of law or facts.

    RELAX, I'm going somewhere with this...

    If Liz was a conservative she would not have participated with the J6 comity.. a few reasons... The J6 comity was called a Select Comity for a reason... This is... They usually let the minority select their representatives... The Republicans were to get 6 while the Democrats who
    have the majority were to get 7... This is normal... this is what they've done since the beginning of time.

    The committee had a hard time finding republicans (not MAGAs) to sit on the committee.

    Nancy Pelosi said NO... You are only getting 2 representatives and you don't get to choose them... I do... and she chose Liz, who hated Trump

    She voted with Trump most of the time. She is a conservative.

    along with Adam Kinzinger a feckless RINO... Adam works for CNN now...

    CNN today is a conservative outlet.

    He didn't even try to run again he bowed out. Whereas Liz was primaried
    and suffered a humiliating loss.

    That was a loss but not a humiliation. Liz Cheney knew what would happen but she never flinched. She has a spine.

    So, if Liz was an "Old School" Conservative she would have turned down the offer to be on the J6 comity because it was illegally formed and did not follow centuries old president.

    Liz Cheney cares more about America than here position or power.

    If Liz was an "Old School" Conservative she would have wanted her findings to be open to the public... Nancy et al. deleted and encrypted all the evidence files... That has never been done in US history.

    The findings of the J6 committee are well known and available to anyone who wants to see it.

    BTW, they have pieced together enough evidence to file an ethics complaint with the BAR... She was found to be colluding with witnesses during the J6 investigation.

    Grasping at straws?

    An "Old School" conservative would investigate something... They'd look for the truth and be open and frank about the results.

    That is what the J6 committee did.

    Because she was none of this the voters in Wyoming overwhelmingly rejected her. They replaced her with an Old School Conservative.

    That's the great thing about America. You can vote for the rep you want, and that is what you will get.

    In spite of all that Liz Cheney has not and will not bend the knee. She
    has a spine.

    Indeed, her integrity is intact.

    Her integrity is not intact. She lost her seat and she's about to loose her law license

    Liz Cheney has not and will not bend the knee. Her integrity is intact.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ALAN IANSON on Fri Oct 25 15:34:00 2024
    CNN today is a conservative outlet.

    How so???


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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Mike Powell on Fri Oct 25 16:04:40 2024
    CNN today is a conservative outlet.

    How so???

    Their content.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ALAN IANSON on Sun Oct 27 15:09:00 2024
    CNN today is a conservative outlet.

    How so???

    Their content.

    Again, how so? Examples? Because they've quit kissing up to the Democrats?


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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Mike Powell on Sun Oct 27 16:12:34 2024
    Their content.

    Again, how so? Examples? Because they've quit kissing up to the Democrats?

    Were the democrats getting kisses?

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ALAN IANSON on Mon Oct 28 09:41:00 2024
    Their content.

    Again, how so? Examples? Because they've quit kissing up to the Democrats?

    Were the democrats getting kisses?

    I dunno. You are the one that said that CNN had become conservative. I am trying to imagine why, since you won't supply any examples.


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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Mike Powell on Mon Oct 28 16:05:18 2024
    Were the democrats getting kisses?

    I dunno. You are the one that said that CNN had become conservative.

    They are not conservative as in Fox, Newsmax, RSBN or the like.

    Those are not exactly what I would call conservative either.

    I am trying to imagine why, since you won't supply any examples.

    I don't spend a lot of time on CNN but (some of) their content of late has been conservative leaning. It could be CNN ownership has changed.

    I don't know the reason but CNN of today is not the same as CNN of yesterday.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to Alan Ianson on Mon Oct 28 18:34:22 2024
    Were the democrats getting kisses?

    I dunno. You are the one that said that CNN had become conservative.

    They are not conservative as in Fox, Newsmax, RSBN or the like.

    Those are not exactly what I would call conservative either.

    I am trying to imagine why, since you won't supply any examples.

    I don't spend a lot of time on CNN but (some of) their content of late has been conservative leaning. It could be CNN ownership has changed.

    I don't know the reason but CNN of today is not the same as CNN of yesterday.


    From 3 days ago:
    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/left/cnn-bias/

    The link here rates them left-center but also credible. Maybe you perceived them as being less conservative (and more to your liking) back when they were not so credible.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Mike Powell on Mon Oct 28 16:53:38 2024
    From 3 days ago:
    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/left/cnn-bias/

    The link here rates them left-center but also credible. Maybe you perceived them as being less conservative (and more to your liking) back when they were not so credible.

    I am aware of where CNN has been, I question where they are and where they are going.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ALAN IANSON on Tue Oct 29 08:38:00 2024
    From 3 days ago:
    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/left/cnn-bias/

    The link here rates them left-center but also credible. Maybe you perceived
    them as being less conservative (and more to your liking) back when they wer
    not so credible.

    I am aware of where CNN has been, I question where they are and where they are
    going.

    They are being rated as "credible" so I don't see a problem there. If a
    source agrees with everything I think but is also rated as "not credible"
    or worse, then I do see a problem.


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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Mike Powell on Tue Oct 29 07:19:50 2024
    They are being rated as "credible" so I don't see a problem there. If a source agrees with everything I think but is also rated as "not credible"
    or worse, then I do see a problem.

    I don't see a problem either. They have shifted right is all I am saying.

    They are not right as in Fox, Newsmax, or RSBN. They have just moved to the right.

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