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  • Re: Packet password case

    From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Nick Andre on Tue Apr 21 22:03:16 2020
    Nick Andre wrote to Wilfred Van Velzen <=-

    If two Sysops cannot troubleshoot packet-password problems then thats
    not a tosser problem. Just remove whatever uppercase-parse code in
    Fmail, be done.

    Internet Rex treats packet passwords as case-sensitive.

    I'm for case-sensitive passwords for security reasons.

    Later,
    Sean

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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Sean Dennis on Wed Apr 22 10:17:00 2020
    Hi Sean,

    On 2020-04-21 22:03:16, you wrote to Nick Andre:

    Internet Rex treats packet passwords as case-sensitive.

    You think or you know for sure? ;)

    I'm for case-sensitive passwords for security reasons.

    I agree...

    Bye, Wilfred.

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Wilfred van Velzen on Sat Apr 25 18:15:02 2020
    Wilfred van Velzen wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    You think or you know for sure? ;)

    I've been a registered IRex user since 1998. I should know by now (I'd
    hope!).

    I'm for case-sensitive passwords for security reasons.
    I agree...

    I didn't use to think that but after getting deep into Linux system administration, I changed my mind.

    Later,
    Sean

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Rob Swindell on Sat Apr 25 18:52:24 2020
    Rob Swindell wrote to Wilfred van Velzen <=-

    SBBSecho will not import echomail from an insecure inbound directory.

    I know that Squish and Fastecho will do the same. I have Squish importing
    from insecure due to my getting a lot of netmail from other nodelisted
    systems but I've not had any problems (yet).

    Later,
    Sean

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  • From Rob Swindell@1:103/705 to Sean Dennis on Sat Apr 25 17:49:15 2020
    Re: Re: Packet password case
    By: Sean Dennis to Rob Swindell on Sat Apr 25 2020 06:52 pm

    Rob Swindell wrote to Wilfred van Velzen <=-

    SBBSecho will not import echomail from an insecure inbound directory.

    I know that Squish and Fastecho will do the same. I have Squish importing from insecure due to my getting a lot of netmail from other nodelisted systems but I've not had any problems (yet).

    NetMail from insecure inbound, sure. I was talking about EchoMail.

    digital man

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Rob Swindell on Sat Apr 25 23:16:50 2020
    Hi Rob,

    NetMail from insecure inbound, sure. I was talking about EchoMail.

    That's what I get for responding to mail when I'm half-asleep. Yes, you're right: tossing unsecure echomail is just asking for problems. Though I don't think I've seen any, uhm, issues with that since the late 90s when there were certain people in a certain mail network that were causing issues.

    Later,
    Sean


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  • From Rob Swindell@1:103/705 to Sean Dennis on Sat Apr 25 23:40:22 2020
    Re: Re: Packet password case
    By: Sean Dennis to Rob Swindell on Sat Apr 25 2020 11:16 pm

    Hi Rob,

    NetMail from insecure inbound, sure. I was talking about EchoMail.

    That's what I get for responding to mail when I'm half-asleep. Yes, you're right: tossing unsecure echomail is just asking for problems. Though I don't think I've seen any, uhm, issues with that since the late 90s when there were certain people in a certain mail network that were causing issues.

    Oh, we were all young trouble-makers at some point, weren't we? :-)

    Someone else did point out that if you had 2 authenticated links sending files into a shared secure inbound, one could impersonate the other very easily unless packet passwords were used. That's one case where the use of inboxes could provide more security.

    digital man

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