Hello All.

I'm running MakeNL 3.5.0 for OS/2. With the FORsesubmit 1 verb, it seems to have a limit on how old the segment files can be to be included in the submission.

Does anyone know the actual age limitation on the stored segment files?

Or am I missing some other verb?

Best regards,
Marc

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Hello, Marc Lewis.
On 12/15/19 7:21 PM you wrote:

I'm running MakeNL 3.5.0 for OS/2. With the FORsesubmit 1 verb, it
seems to have a limit on how old the segment files can be to be
included in the submission. Does anyone know the actual age
limitation on the stored segment files?

By default MakeNL goes back 7 weeks from the next publish day when searching for a segment in the masters directory. If your segments are older than that, copy the most recent one to your mailer inbound. MakeNL will detect the segment in the inbound directory and consider it a new update.

Regards,

Andrew

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Hello Andrew.

<On 16Dec2019 14:00 Andrew Leary (1:320/219.1) wrote a message to Marc Lewis regarding Segment age limitation? >

[snip]

does anyone know the actual age limitation on the stored segment
files?

By default MakeNL goes back 7 weeks from the next publish day when searching for a segment in the masters directory. If your segments
are older than that, copy the most recent one to your mailer
inbound. MakeNL will detect the segment in the inbound directory
and consider it a new update.

Okay, I can probably cobble something together in REXX to do that automagically
when the Tuesday and Thursday updates run. Thanks for the info!

Best regards,
Marc

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Marc,

Does anyone know the actual age limitation on the stored segment files?

The solution which I have been using for over 2 decades is to have only 1 region-segment per region, no old stuff, in the directory and use a wildcard ...

For exampple ...

Region 20 region20.* 2:20/0
Region 24 region24.* 2:24/0
Region 25 region25.* 2:25/0
Region 28 region28.* 2:28/0
region 29 region29.* 2:29/0

... etc ...

\%/@rd

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Hello Ward!

16 Dec 19 23:11, you wrote to Marc Lewis:

Does anyone know the actual age limitation on the stored segment files?

The solution which I have been using for over 2 decades is to have only 1 region-segment per region, no old stuff, in the directory and use a wildcard ...

For exampple ...

Region 20 region20.* 2:20/0
Region 24 region24.* 2:24/0
Region 25 region25.* 2:25/0
Region 28 region28.* 2:28/0
region 29 region29.* 2:29/0

... etc ...

That will only work on systems, where only one dot is accepted in the filename.

Kees

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Hallo Marc!

15.12.2019 19:21, Marc Lewis schrieb an All:

I'm running MakeNL 3.5.0 for OS/2.

Wich one do you use?

With the FORsesubmit 1 verb, it
seems to have a limit on how old the segment files can be to be
included in the submission.

Does anyone know the actual age limitation on the stored segment
files?

Depends on the version of makenl and depends on the configuration.

Or am I missing some other verb?

Don't know. My crystal ball is on vacation. ;-)

Best regards,
Marc

Bye/2 Torsten

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Kees,

Region 20 region20.* 2:20/0
Region 24 region24.* 2:24/0
Region 25 region25.* 2:25/0
Region 28 region28.* 2:28/0
region 29 region29.* 2:29/0
... etc ...

That will only work on systems, where only one dot is accepted in the filename.

You make it sound as if that's the exception while in fact it's the rule.

\%/@rd

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Hello Torsten.

<On 17Dec2019 01:19 Torsten Bamberg (2:240/5832) wrote a message to Marc Lewis regarding Segment age limitation? >

I'm running MakeNL 3.5.0 for OS/2.

Wich one do you use?

OS/2 32bit

Best regards,
Marc

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Hallo Marc!

16.12.2019 21:27, Marc Lewis schrieb an Torsten Bamberg:

I'm running MakeNL 3.5.0 for OS/2.

Wich one do you use?

OS/2 32bit

:-)))

Okay, I ask again, which version exactly? Looks like this if you do a 'makenl.exe >> version.txt'

Looks like this:

=##= Anfang "mknlversion.txt" =##=
MakeNL 3.5.0 (OS/2 32-bit) compiled with EMX on Dec 17 2019 12:06:17
=##= Ende "mknlversion.txt" =##=

Best regards,
Marc

Bye/2 Torsten

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Hello Ward!

17 Dec 19 01:54, you wrote to me:

Region 20 region20.* 2:20/0
Region 24 region24.* 2:24/0
Region 25 region25.* 2:25/0
Region 28 region28.* 2:28/0
region 29 region29.* 2:29/0
... etc ...

That will only work on systems, where only one dot is accepted in the
filename.

You make it sound as if that's the exception while in fact it's the rule.

It all depends on ones point of view. I have looked at the code and the
debug logs. But for now lets say, there is a bug in the code, that is
masked in 8.3 filename systems. It could verywell be that the bug would also
be apparent if makenl was a real windows application.

So indeed, from my point of view, your option only works if makenl runs in
DOS or or a DOSbox. If DOS and DOSbox are the norm in Fidonet, then my view
is indeed an exeption.

Kees

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On 17 Dec 19 14:28:50, Kees Van Eeten said the following to Ward Dossche:

So indeed, from my point of view, your option only works if makenl runs in DOS or or a DOSbox. If DOS and DOSbox are the norm in Fidonet, then my view is indeed an exeption.

MakeNL/DOS has ran flawlessly here and I have no intention on moving off DOS.

Nick

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Hello Nick!

17 Dec 19 12:29, you wrote to me:

So indeed, from my point of view, your option only works if makenl runs
in DOS or or a DOSbox. If DOS and DOSbox are the norm in Fidonet, then
my view is indeed an exeption.

MakeNL/DOS has ran flawlessly here and I have no intention on moving off DOS.

Why should you?

Kees

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Hello Torsten.

<On 17Dec2019 15:02 Torsten Bamberg (2:240/5832) wrote a message to Marc Lewis regarding Segment age limitation? >

16.12.2019 21:27, Marc Lewis schrieb an Torsten Bamberg:

I'm running MakeNL 3.5.0 for OS/2.

Wich one do you use?

OS/2 32bit

:-)))

Okay, I ask again, which version exactly? Looks like this if you do
a 'makenl.exe >> version.txt'

Looks like this:

=##= Anfang "mknlversion.txt" =##=
MakeNL 3.5.0 (OS/2 32-bit) compiled with EMX on Dec 17 2019
12:06:17 =##= Ende "mknlversion.txt" =##=

-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-CUT-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-
MakeNL 3.5.0 (OS/2 32-bit) compiled with Watcom C on May 4 2019 22:04:36 -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-CUT-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-

Best regards,
Marc

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On 17 Dec 19 19:15:20, Kees Van Eeten said the following to Nick Andre:

MakeNL/DOS has ran flawlessly here and I have no intention on moving o DOS.

Why should you?

No particular reason, other than I deal with a lot of Linux fans.

Ward understands this very well, about how every so often, someone comes
around and proclaims that Linux is the magical cure for all problems... just because its Linux. I respect people who run it, but they do not respect that it does not run here, it does not "work" for my needs. DOS/Windows does.

You cannot politely explain to such people the difference between the way a wildcard-file function works on DOS versus Linux and how that potentially affects how a nodelist is processed.

Nick

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Hello Nick,

MakeNL/DOS has ran flawlessly here and I have no intention on moving o >> NA> DOS.

Why should you?

No particular reason, other than I deal with a lot of Linux fans.

I started out in DOS in the pre-Windows days. I currently run Linux. I do so because Linux meets my needs. I do have a couple Windows 2003 server box's because they serve a useful purpose too. As I see it the bottom line is to use what works best for you to accomplish the necessary tasks required.


Jeff

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Hi Marc,

Sunday December 15 2019 19:21, you wrote to All:

Hello All.
I'm running MakeNL 3.5.0 for OS/2. With the FORsesubmit 1 verb, it

^--- Typo ?

the correct parameter is:

FORcesubmit 1
^...... c instead of s

Best regards,
Marc
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regards, uli ;-)

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Hello Ulrich.

<On 22Dec2019 09:44 Ulrich Schroeter (2:240/1120) wrote a message to Marc Lewis regarding Segment age limitation? >

Sunday December 15 2019 19:21, you wrote to All:

Hello All.
I'm running MakeNL 3.5.0 for OS/2. With the FORsesubmit 1 verb, it

^--- Typo ?

I nevor maek tipografical errorz, Ulrich. ;-)

Needless to say, it's correct in the control file. My cat probably walked on the keyboard... [Yeah, right.] Manchmal spiele ich die Rolle eines Idioten im Spiel des Lebens.

Merry Christmas. :-)


Best regards,
Marc

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