2) Does/Did anyone else upgrade to Linux Mint only to have it tell you that your network cable is unplugged when the live cd found it as connected, but the actual install fails.
I have been a user of both Windows and Linux/Unix for a while.. I have
2 questions..
1) Any one possibly tell me why everytime I try to "make" I get
errors, snap, flatpack, appimage, .deb and rpm work fine but if I have
to try to "make" it fails. Any suggestions..?
I'm currently using Mint 18.3.. am looking at moving to 20.1 so it is supported until 2025 as 18.3 ends it support in April 2021.. :(
Otherwise I love Mint, been using it exclusively as my primary OS for
5 years... Some people are gamers, I've always been a software tester instead.. I've tried most varients of Unix/Linux and most other OS's.. I've been using a computer since I was 15 and I'm 53 now.
1) Any one possibly tell me why everytime I try to "make" I get errors, snap, flatpack, appimage, .deb and rpm work fine but if I have to try to "make" it fails. Any suggestions..?
2) Does/Did anyone else upgrade to Linux Mint only to have it tell you
that your network cable is unplugged when the live cd found it as connected, but the actual install fails.
Hey all,
I have been a user of both Windows and Linux/Unix for a while.. I have 2 questions..
1) Any one possibly tell me why everytime I try to "make" I get errors, snap, flatpack, appimage, .deb and rpm work fine but
I have to try to "make" it fails. Any suggestions..?
1) Any one possibly tell me why everytime I try to "make" I getWhen make fails, you should be able to see an error message that
errors, snap, flatpack, appimage, .deb and rpm work fine but if I
have to try to "make" it fails. Any suggestions..?
could tell you "why" it failed. If some .h files are missing, you
could search for the corresponding -dev package and install it.
Also, the meta-package "build-essential" is helpful when compiling packages.
2) Does/Did anyone else upgrade to Linux Mint only to have it tellMaybe a package containing firmware files for the network hardware
you that your network cable is unplugged when the live cd found it
as connected, but the actual install fails.
is missing in the installation?
Quoting Aaron Thomas, who said to mseifert <-(:
When Mint released 20.0 (Ulyana or something) I upgraded from an
existing installation and had a hardware issue (I think it was my Wifi adapater) but then I did a fresh install and had the same problem.
To get around it, I installed the latest Ubuntu and the hardware issue
was gone. It seems to me like Mint has omitted support for certain hardware with that big bad release.
You probably don't have the coreutils package installed, and if it
doesn't come with it, gcc.
I'm currently using Mint 18.3.. am looking at moving to 20.1 so it is supported until 2025 as 18.3 ends it support in April 2021.. :(
Sorry, no experience with that. But I would think they will fix that
issue by April. ;)
Otherwise I love Mint, been using it exclusively as my primary OS for
5 years... Some people are gamers, I've always been a software tester instead.. I've tried most varients of Unix/Linux and most other OS's.. I've been using a computer since I was 15 and I'm 53 now.
Have you really tried most variants? Theres so many out there I don't
even want to try them all.
I'm a fan of Archlinux. So, if you want to try a GUI version of it you
can take a look at Manjaro. It's probably more "bleeding edge" than any debian based distro. I've used this for over 5 years and never had to reinstall the whole damn system, like I had to do with Debian based
crap in the past (Ubuntu, Kubuntu, etc).
Quoting Anna Christina Nass, who said to mseifert <-(:
Am 06.02.21 schrieb Mark Seifert@1:120/457 in LINUX:
Hallo Mark,
When make fails, you should be able to see an error message that could tell you "why" it failed.
If some .h files are missing, you could search for the corresponding
-dev package and install it.
Also, the meta-package "build-essential" is helpful when compiling packages.
2) Does/Did anyone else upgrade to Linux Mint only to have it tell you that your network cable is unplugged when the live cd found it as connected, but the actual install fails.
Maybe a package containing firmware files for the network hardware is missing in the installation?
Not a Mint user here, but in order to know why "make" is failing we'd
need more information. Specifically:
* which program are you trying to compile.
* which steps are you following to do it.
Most times "make" fails it is because you are missing some dependency
that was not tested by the ./configure script, there are version missmatches,
1) Any one possibly tell me why everytime I try to "make" I get errors, snap, flatpack, appimage, .deb and rpm work fine but if I have to try to "make" it fails. Any suggestions..?
I've heard in a couple of Linux podcasts that Archlinux was more for people compiled (make) their applications, which is something I have no interest in and no luck at..
I may have to go back to Ubuntu. I wish Mandrake still existed.
I've tried most common *nix varients, and others Beos, Skyos, OS/2 pretty mu if it had a GUI I've probably played with it at some point.. some people pla games, I play with software/OS's.
I have tried Ubuntu, kbuntu and even xbuntu none of which seemed close enough for me to finally let go of my windows branch before going completely to Unix.. Mint filled that need.
Quoting Mike Powell, who said to mseifert <-(:snap,
1) Any one possibly tell me why everytime I try to "make" I get errors,
flatpack, appimage, .deb and rpm work fine but if I have to try to "make" it fails. Any suggestions..?
Depends on what errors you are getting. As someone already pointed
out, you could be missing coreutils, or you could be missing some other pre-requisite that is specific to the program you are trying to
compile.
Quoting Richard Falken, who said to mseifert <-(:
I've tried most common *nix varients, and others Beos, Skyos, OS/2 pretty mu if it had a GUI I've probably played with it at some point.. some people pla games, I play with software/OS's.
YOu could try MX Linux. It is quite ok for an easy distribution and it
is close to the top (or directly in the top) at Distrowatch at the
moment.
Not sure what you are looking for in a distribution exactly.
I know that most linux distros are pretty much the same, with the major differences being the desktop (kde, gnome, xfce, mate, cinnamon, etc.. and t applications included. Not to mention any special instuctions in the Kernal But all in all I want an OS that's free, won't crash all the time, is easy t update and won't force me to get OS specific software (for example going fro Windows to Linux)
Mark Seifert wrote to Nicholas Boel <=-
I may have to go back to Ubuntu. I wish Mandrake still existed.
I've tried most common *nix varients, and others Beos, Skyos,
OS/2 pretty much if it had a GUI I've probably played with it at
some point.. some people play games, I play with software/OS's.
Ok, as I previously replied both coreutils and the other
essentil-whatever were installed but I reinstalled them anyway.
As for what it is I'm trying to make.. it doesn't matter NOTHING ever
gets made.. I'll need to copy the output next time since people thing
it might help.
things. Sorry but keep in mind I'm 53 and have been using computers
for 38 years, programming for 30 years and using linux as my OS for
about 12 years.
Which is why I'm asking for help ... I SHOULD be able to resolve
1) Any one possibly tell me why everytime I try to "make" I get
errors, snap, flatpack, appimage, .deb and rpm work fine but if I
have to try to "make" it fails. Any suggestions..?
When make fails, you should be able to see an error message that
could tell you "why" it failed. If some .h files are missing, you
could search for the corresponding -dev package and install it.
In a properly designed systems you'd never need to install the development packages: they should be installed only inside of a clean build environment.
Also, the meta-package "build-essential" is helpful when compilingI'd never use the system where such package does really exist...
packages.
When make fails, you should be able to see an error message that could ACN>> tell you "why" it failed.
If some .h files are missing, you could search for the corresponding ACN>> -dev package and install it.
Also, the meta-package "build-essential" is helpful when compiling
packages.
I have checked and build-essential is installed in the Synaptec Package Manager, so I told it to re-install.
Maybe a package containing firmware files for the network hardware is ACN>> missing in the installation?
I don't know, but would hate to have to switch from Linux Mint to
something else because they decided to stop supporting my motherboards built in network adapter..especially since the live cd has no issues.
1) Any one possibly tell me why everytime I try to "make" I get
errors, snap, flatpack, appimage, .deb and rpm work fine but if I
have to try to "make" it fails. Any suggestions..?
When make fails, you should be able to see an error message that
could tell you "why" it failed. If some .h files are missing, you
could search for the corresponding -dev package and install it.
In a properly designed systems you'd never need to install the?!?!?!?
development packages: they should be installed only inside of a
clean build environment.
The original poster wants to install software via "make" and I
guess this means to compile the program which indeed needs
development programs.
What you do on your systems was not the question - or do you have a better solution with your "properly designed system"?
Also, the meta-package "build-essential" is helpful when compiling
packages.
I'd never use the system where such package does really exist...Then stay away from everything that is derived from Debian GNU/Linux.
Richard Falken said to mseifert <-
Those are very generic needs.
"Easy to update" discards Slackware, which is what I would usually recommend. It is not that it is "hard" to update but it is a bit more involved than apt-get upgrade.
My next suggestion would be Debian or Devuan. There were some stats in
the latter Linux Magazine issue from which I draw the conclussion that
the Debian ecosystem is becoming the default in Desktops.
If you need something more modern MX Linux is workable. I have an
install around which I use for testing random stuff. I personally don't think that "easy to use" Debian derivatives have such a big of an edge compared to their daddy, at least nowadays, but I can see MX working
for people familiar with Mints and *buntus.
Just my two cents. In the end of the day people sticks with what feels better for them.
Which is why I'm asking for help ... I SHOULD be able to resolve this.. damn >ego.. down boy down...!!
Anyone else have a suggestion for him? He upgraded Mint and it's no
Anyone else have a suggestion for him? He upgraded Mint and it's no
As of 20.04, Kubuntu uses the Plasma Desktop instead of KDE. It's pretty nice.
Anyone else have a suggestion for him? He upgraded Mint and it's no
As of 20.04, Kubuntu uses the Plasma Desktop instead of KDE. It's pretty nice.
Aren't Plasma & KDE the same thing?
I installed Ubuntu with KDE and then everything is referred to as "Plasma."
But yea, it sure is nice! Everything is easy to customize too.
Mike Powell said to mseifert <-
Which is why I'm asking for help ... I SHOULD be able to resolve this.. damn
ego.. down boy down...!!
LOL, you've been at it about as long as I have (using linux, that is).
When it happens to me, it usually means I am missing a prerequisite package for the package I am trying to compile, *OR* I don't have some part of the linux kernal source installed (like it is installed but it
is a mis-match for my version).
That may be a repeat of things you've already heard, but those are the
two things that nearly 100% bite me regularly. ;)
As of today, KDE is the name of the organization that develops the software. Plasma is the name of the desktop.
I installed Ubuntu with KDE and then everything is referred to as "Plasma."
Mark Seifert wrote to All <=-
Hey all,
I have been a user of both Windows and Linux/Unix for a while.. I have
2 questions..
1) Any one possibly tell me why everytime I try to "make" I get errors, snap, flatpack, appimage, .deb and rpm work fine but if I have to try
to "make" it fails. Any suggestions..?
It should only take a few seconds to build.
If it fails to build, please post the output from make and we'll
see if we can pinpoint the cause.
Maurice Kinal wrote to Andrew Alt <=-
-={ 2021-03-01 17:54:39.246915930+00:00 }=-
Hey Andrew!
The above was done on my custom pure 64-bit nondistribution rootfs (aka motorshed) using gcc-10.2.0/glibc-2.33 and friends.
Does this help any?
On Debian with gcc 8 I wasn't getting any warnings.
Any suggestions?
Things are working fine right now so I'm reluctant to change the
code until I really understand well how best to fix those
warnings.
Maurice Kinal wrote to Andrew Alt <=-
-={ 2021-03-03 16:41:54.152677967+00:00 }=-
Hey Andrew!
On Debian with gcc 8 I wasn't getting any warnings.
No surprise here. Of all the different versions of gcc over the years
gcc 4 was my favourite. That was the last release I was able to stick with pure C. Almost everything has gone downhill since.
Any suggestions?
Other than sticking with what you feel comfortable with, no. It works here despite the warnings so you don't really have much to sweat.
Right now I am wrestling with the rustc/firefox breakage and whether or not to continue on this latest so-called upgrade into extreme
overbloating of something I never ever cared about (ie gui/web crap).
Thank you for trying it out and for the feedback.
And for the reminder not to look for problems when there aren't
any.
Is the breakage related to the release of rust 2021 or something
else?
Have a great weekend, Maurice... :) Always nice to chat with
you...
Have a great weekend, Maurice... :) Always nice to chat with
you...
Agreed. Take care of yourself and I am sure we will be chatting in
the near future.
i recovered my sluckware :)
blacklisted slackpkg update and kernel* updates, hope not to see
it again with any breakage from precompiled problems
i recovered my sluckware :)
A very good idea. Myself I am toying with the idea of installing slackware64-14.0 on a virtual drive and redoing it as a pure C, pure 64-bit nondistribution just for fun. Either that or doing something similar with the 15.0 alpha except in that case it will have to be
C/C++. Either way {,usr}/lib64 has to go.
blacklisted slackpkg update and kernel* updates, hope not to see
it again with any breakage from precompiled problems
I'll have to take your word on that as I've never used any of that
before and have no plans to use it in the future. Everyone I know
that uses slackware also builds their own kernel as the first step
after booting to a fresh install.
As for other distributions who cares?
if i just could compile amiga os 64bit, we wont be here :)
gentoo is more simple :)
-={ 2021-03-07 03:36:35.841743557+00:00 }=-
Hey Benny!
if i just could compile amiga os 64bit, we wont be here :)
It's just pining for the fjørds.
gentoo is more simple :)
gentoo is okay but it isn't slackware.
Life is good,
Maurice
... Scyle monna gehwylc mid gemete healdan a wiþ leofne ond wið laþne.
Every man should act with moderation both to friends and foes.
Gentoo is cool but it is not simpler by any means.
if i just could compile amiga os 64bit, we wont be here :)It's just pining for the fj|�rds.
gentoo is more simple :)gentoo is okay but it isn't slackware.
Gentoo is cool but it is not simpler by any means.
your cat typed that ? :)
gentoo can use precompiled aswell if its needed, with slackware
its just reversed in a bad way
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