Telegram side works fine too!

Now we start testing the new version. Everything was rewritten from scratch. There may be glitches. ;)

--- tg2fido gate v0.6.1
* Origin: Telegram to fido gate by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)

Already noticed one...
--- tg2fido gate v0.6.1
* Origin: Telegram to fido gate by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)

Not on the fidonet side, when you reply from telegram to a message.
--- tg2fido gate v0.6.1
* Origin: Telegram to fido gate by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)

Only the first line is quoted.
--- tg2fido gate v0.6.1
* Origin: Telegram to fido gate by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)

Sveiks Brother!

12 Oct 20 15:34, you wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:

Telegram side works fine too!

Now we start testing the new version. Everything was rewritten from scratch. There may be glitches. ;)

--- tg2fido gate v0.6.1

The Subject doesn't work. I only see "..." with your post. Usually it's at least the first line of the post.


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Hello, Wilfred van Velzen - All.
On 10/12/20 3:37 PM you wrote:

Only the first line is quoted.

It is more like a dynamic link to the message being quoted. In Telegram,
if you click on the message being quoted, it will take you to the
original message.

It is confusing to someone from a regular Fido type message world.

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* Origin: nntp://news.fidonet.fi (2:221/6.0)

Only the first line is quoted.

This is a reply from the TgM side. Let's see what the Subj is.

--- tg2fido gate v0.6.1
* Origin: Telegram to fido gate by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)

Hello, August Abolins - Brother Rabbit.
On 10/12/20 6:48 AM you wrote:

Sveiks Brother! 12 Oct 20 15:34, you wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:

Telegram side works fine too! BR> Now we start testing the new version. Everything was rewritten from BR> scratch. There may be

glitches. ;) BR> --- tg2fido gate v0.6.1 The Subject doesn't work.
I only see "..." with your post. Usually it's at least the first
line of the post. --- * Origin: ----> Point Of VeleNo BBs (http://www.velenobbs.net) (2:333/808.7)

The subject is different here.
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Hi Wilfred.

12 Oct 20 15:34, you wrote to All:

@MSGID: 2:460/58 00000354
@PID: tg2fido_gate_v0.6.1
@CHRS: CP866 2
@TGUID: 202096118
@REPLYTO 2:280/464
@RealName: Wilfred van Velzen 2:280/464
Already noticed one...

MSGID looks fine now.

--- tg2fido gate v0.6.1
* Origin: Telegram to fido gate by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)
SEEN-BY: 221/6 460/58 777 1124 5858 467/888 5054/30
@PATH: 460/58

'Tommi

--- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
* Origin: nntps://news.fidonet.fi (2:221/6)

Hi, August!

12 ��� 20 14:48, August Abolins -> Brother Rabbit:

Telegram side works fine too!

Now we start testing the new version. Everything was rewritten from
scratch. There may be glitches. ;)

--- tg2fido gate v0.6.1

The Subject doesn't work. I only see "..." with your post. Usually it's at least the first line of the post.

Is it better to duplicate first line of the post?

Have nice nights.
Stas Mishchenkov.

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Hello, Stas Mishchenkov - August Abolins.
On 10/12/20 8:02 AM you wrote:

Hi, August! 12 ��� 20 14:48, August Abolins -> Brother Rabbit:

Telegram side works fine too! BR>> Now we start testing the

new version. Everything was rewritten from BR>> scratch. There may
be glitches. ;) BR>> --- tg2fido gate v0.6.1 AA> The Subject doesn't
work. I only see "..." with your post. Usually it's AA> at least
the first line of the post. Is it better to duplicate first line of
the post?

Is there no way to incorporate the Subj: from the original?

--
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Hi, Tommi!

12 ��� 20 16:02, Tommi Koivula -> Wilfred van Velzen:

MSGID looks fine now.

Now I need to remember to restore the replay link in telegram. ;)

Have nice nights.
Stas Mishchenkov.

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Hi, Tommi!

12 ��� 20 16:02, Tommi Koivula -> Wilfred van Velzen:

MSGID looks fine now.

Now I need to remember to restore the replay link in telegram. ;)

Have nice nights.
Stas Mishchenkov.

That would be nice! Usually when we hover over the msg, the "Reply" option reveals itself - which is convenient.

--- tg2fido gate v0.6.1
* Origin: Telegram to fido gate by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)

Hi, August!

12 ��� 20 14:48, August Abolins -> Brother Rabbit:

Telegram side works fine too!

Now we start testing the new version. Everything was rewritten from
scratch. There may be glitches. ;)

--- tg2fido gate v0.6.1

The Subject doesn't work. I only see "..." with your post. Usually it's
at least the first line of the post.

Is it better to duplicate first line of the post?

Have nice nights.
Stas Mishchenkov.

The first line of post was a good strategy. But can you keep the subject the same when we do a Reply on a fido-side message?

--- tg2fido gate v0.6.1
* Origin: Telegram to fido gate by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)

The first line of post was a good strategy. But can you keep the subject the same when we do a Reply on a fido-side message?

Yes. On Fido side subject is preserved.

--- tg2fido gate v0.6.1
* Origin: Telegram to fido gate by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)

Hello, August Abolins - Stas Mishchenkov .
On 10/12/20 4:14 PM you wrote:

Hi, Tommi! SM> SM> 12 ��� 20 16:02, Tommi Koivula -> Wilfred van

Velzen: SM> SM> TK> MSGID looks fine now. SM> SM> Now I need to
remember to restore the replay link in telegram. ;) SM> SM> Have
nice nights. SM> Stas Mishchenkov. That would be nice!
Usually when we hover over the msg, the "Reply" option reveals
itself - which is convenient.

That's new. Normally, the messages when I reply in HotdogEd divide the
message I am replying to up by previous messages in the thread.

This time, nearly the entire prior message is in one block.

--- tg2fido gate v0.6.1 * Origin: Telegram to fido gate by Stas
Mishchenkov (2:460/58)

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Hello, Brother Rabbit - August Abolins.
On 10/12/20 4:19 PM you wrote:

The first line of post was a good strategy. But can you keep the
subject the same when we do a Reply on a fido-side message?

I manually split the quote block to see what happens.

Yes. On Fido side subject is preserved.

But it's not retaining between the two.

--
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---
* Origin: nntp://news.fidonet.fi (2:221/6.0)

Hello, August Abolins - Stas Mishchenkov .
On 10/12/20 4:14 PM you wrote:

Hi, Tommi! SM> SM> 12 ��� 20 16:02, Tommi Koivula -> Wilfred van

Velzen: SM> SM> TK> MSGID looks fine now. SM> SM> Now I need to remember to restore the replay link in telegram. ;) SM> SM> Have
nice nights. SM> Stas Mishchenkov. That would be nice!
Usually when we hover over the msg, the "Reply" option reveals
itself - which is convenient.

That's new. Normally, the messages when I reply in HotdogEd divide the message I am replying to up by previous messages in the thread.

This time, nearly the entire prior message is in one block.

--- tg2fido gate v0.6.1 * Origin: Telegram to fido gate by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)

--
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Posted using Hotdoged on Android

I wonder how that message will look when it arrives at one of my points. It appears inbound is going slow everywhere except Tommi's right now.

--- tg2fido gate v0.6.1
* Origin: Telegram to fido gate by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)

Hi August,

On 2020-10-12 15:51:19, you wrote to me:

Only the first line is quoted.

This is a reply from the TgM side. Let's see what the Subj is.

"..."


Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)

Hi Tommi,

On 2020-10-12 16:02:08, you wrote to me:

@MSGID: 2:460/58 00000354

MSGID looks fine now.

Well, normally you want to base your MSGID on the time, and not use a sequence number. Because if you re-install the application (within 3 years), it will probably restart at 0 again, and you have created duplicate MSGID's...

Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)

Hi, Charles!

12 ��� 20 16:08, Charles Pierson -> Stas Mishchenkov:

Hi, August! 12 ��� 20 14:48, August Abolins -> Brother Rabbit:

Telegram side works fine too! BR>> Now we start testing the

new version. Everything was rewritten from BR>> scratch. There may
be glitches. ;) BR>> --- tg2fido gate v0.6.1 AA> The Subject doesn't
work. I only see "..." with your post. Usually it's AA> at least
the first line of the post. Is it better to duplicate first line of
the post?

Is there no way to incorporate the Subj: from the original?

Look. If the message is from Fido to Telegram, then the Subj field is inherited as a string --Subj: text--. If such a message is answered from Telegram, then in Fido the Sabj field will again be inherited. Also, if a new message has a string --Subj: text--, then in Fido it will go to the Subj field. Otherwise, it will be an empty field with three dots. I'm not sure yet if it's worth duplicating the first line of the message.

Have nice nights.
Stas Mishchenkov.

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Hi, August!

12 ��� 20 16:16, August Abolins -> Stas Mishchenkov:

Is it better to duplicate first line of the post?

The first line of post was a good strategy.

I'll think about it.

But can you keep the subject the same when we do a Reply on a
fido-side message?

Isn't it persisting now? I see the same subj on Fido's side of this message.

Have nice nights.
Stas Mishchenkov.

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Hello, Charles Pierson.
On 10/12/20 4:24 PM you wrote:

Hello, Brother Rabbit - August Abolins. On 10/12/20 4:19 PM you
wrote:

The first line of post was a good strategy. But can you keep the
subject the same when we do a Reply on a fido-side message?

I manually split the quote block to see what happens.

Yes. On Fido side subject is preserved.

But it's not retaining between the two.
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Yes. That looks normal. But it required manual manipulation on my part.

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--- Hotdoged/2.13.5/Android
* Origin: Houston, TX (2:240/1120.976)

Hello, Stas Mishchenkov.
On 10/12/20 4:31 PM you wrote:

Is there no way to incorporate the Subj: from the original?

Look. If the message is from Fido to Telegram, then the Subj field
is inherited as a string --Subj: text--. If such a message is
answered from Telegram, then in Fido the Sabj field will again be inherited. Also, if a new message has a string --Subj: text--,
then in Fido it will go to the Subj field. Otherwise, it will be
an empty field with three dots. I'm not sure yet if it's worth duplicating the first line of the message.

Ok. That sounds perfectly reasonable.

I was just asking. I ask a lot of questions sometimes like a kid would.




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--- Hotdoged/2.13.5/Android
* Origin: Houston, TX (2:240/1120.976)

Hello, Stas Mishchenkov.
On 10/12/20 4:41 PM you wrote:

The first line of post was a good strategy.

I'll think about it.

The first line thing could be confusing at times trying to follow a thread.

But can you keep the subject the same when we do a Reply on a
fido-side message?

Isn't it persisting now? I see the same subj on Fido's side of
this message.

Sometimes yes, sometimes no? Or that's how it appears. Give it a few days so we can see better.

--
Best regards!
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--- Hotdoged/2.13.5/Android
* Origin: Houston, TX (2:240/1120.976)

Hi, Charles!

12 ��� 20 16:24, Charles Pierson -> Brother Rabbit:

Yes. On Fido side subject is preserved.

But it's not retaining between the two.

...between the two messages from the Telegram. It's normal. Telegram messages have no any idea what is "subject".

Have nice nights.
Stas Mishchenkov.

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Hi, Wilfred!

12 ��� 20 15:30, Wilfred van Velzen -> Tommi Koivula:

@MSGID: 2:460/58 00000354

MSGID looks fine now.

Well, normally you want to base your MSGID on the time, and not use a sequence number. Because if you re-install the application (within 3 years), it will probably restart at 0 again, and you have created duplicate MSGID's...

However, such MSGID does not violate the standard. In this case, it is made on the basis of Telegram msg_id and allows replies from Fido to be chained on the Telegram side.

Have nice nights.
Stas Mishchenkov.

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Hi, Charles!

12 ��� 20 08:58, Charles Pierson -> Stas Mishchenkov:

The first line thing could be confusing at times trying to follow a thread.

So this method often "cut my eyes". That is why this is not implemented in the new version.

Isn't it persisting now? I see the same subj on Fido's side of
this message.

Sometimes yes, sometimes no? Or that's how it appears. Give it a few days so we can see better.

I think this is due to the fact that Telegram messages do not know how to inherit the subject.

Have nice nights.
Stas Mishchenkov.

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Hi Stas,

On 2020-10-12 17:22:36, you wrote to me:

@MSGID: 2:460/58 00000354

MSGID looks fine now.

Well, normally you want to base your MSGID on the time, and not use a
sequence number. Because if you re-install the application (within 3
years), it will probably restart at 0 again, and you have created
duplicate MSGID's...

However, such MSGID does not violate the standard. In this case, it is made
on the basis of Telegram msg_id and allows replies from Fido to be chained on the Telegram side.

If the Telegram msg_id is guaranteed to be unique over the life time of the Telegram group, then it's ok... ;)

Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)

Hello, Stas Mishchenkov.
On 10/12/20 4:31 PM you wrote:

Is there no way to incorporate the Subj: from the original?

Look. If the message is from Fido to Telegram, then the Subj field
is inherited as a string --Subj: text--. If such a message is answered from Telegram, then in Fido the Sabj field will again be inherited. Also, if a new message has a string --Subj: text--,
then in Fido it will go to the Subj field. Otherwise, it will be
an empty field with three dots. I'm not sure yet if it's worth duplicating the first line of the message.

Ok. That sounds perfectly reasonable.

I was just asking. I ask a lot of questions sometimes like a kid would.

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Nothing wrong. Often times, these questions will help you fix the error.

--- tg2fido gate v0.6.1
* Origin: Telegram to fido gate by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)

Hello, Stas Mishchenkov.
On 10/12/20 5:12 PM you wrote:

Hi, Charles! 12 ��� 20 16:24, Charles Pierson -> Brother Rabbit:

Yes. On Fido side subject is preserved.

But it's not retaining between the two.

...between the two messages from the Telegram. It's normal.
Telegram messages have no any idea what is "subject".

OK. I get it. Bouncing between feeds is confusing me.

--
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--- Hotdoged/2.13.5/Android
* Origin: Houston, TX (2:240/1120.976)

Hi, Charles!

12 ��� 20 16:24, Charles Pierson -> Brother Rabbit:

Yes. On Fido side subject is preserved.

But it's not retaining between the two.

...between the two messages from the Telegram. It's normal. Telegram messages have no any idea what is "subject".

Have nice nights.
Stas Mishchenkov.

--subj:subj as 3 dots--I think the first implementation using the first 40chars of an original message was pretty good. When viewing in List mode on the fido side we would see something useful to trigger a memory of what the message might be about. With just the 3 dots, the List view is not helpful. See attached pic.
https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/pic/5f846caa.jpg



--- tg2fido gate v0.6.1
* Origin: Telegram to fido gate by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)

Hi August,

On 2020-10-12 17:48:12, you wrote to Stas Mishchenkov:

--subj:subj as 3 dots--I think the first implementation using the
first 40chars of an original message was pretty good. When viewing in List mode on the fido side we would see something useful to trigger a memory of what the message might be about. With just the 3 dots, the
List view is not helpful.

I agree...

Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)

Hello, Stas Mishchenkov.
On 10/12/20 5:22 PM you wrote:

Well, normally you want to base your MSGID on the time, and not
use a sequence number. Because if you re-install the application
(within 3 years), it will probably restart at 0 again, and you
have created duplicate MSGID's...

However, such MSGID does not violate the standard. In this case,
it is made on the basis of Telegram msg_id and allows replies from
Fido to be chained on the Telegram side.

I don't fully know or understand the standards. But for practical purposes, is MSGID the only thing FIDO uses to identify messages?



--
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--- Hotdoged/2.13.5/Android
* Origin: Houston, TX (2:240/1120.976)

Hello, Stas Mishchenkov.
On 10/12/20 5:31 PM you wrote:

The first line thing could be confusing at times trying to follow
a thread.

So this method often "cut my eyes". That is why this is not
implemented in the new version.

Exactly. It gets a little confusing at times.

Isn't it persisting now? I see the same subj on Fido's side of
this message.

Sometimes yes, sometimes no? Or that's how it appears. Give it a
few days so we can see better.

I think this is due to the fact that Telegram messages do not know
how to inherit the subject.

That is probably the case. As I said, you released a new version, let's give it some time to see how it goes.

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--- Hotdoged/2.13.5/Android
* Origin: Houston, TX (2:240/1120.976)

Hello, Brother Rabbit.
On 10/12/20 5:36 PM you wrote:

I was just asking. I ask a lot of questions sometimes like a kid
would.

Nothing wrong. Often times, these questions will help you fix the
error.

That is my intent. Unfortunately, over written communications, sincere questions or complaints aren't always clear, nor are emotions behind replies. It appeared to me you were getting frustrated.

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The Telegram poll is insanely fast already. <G> I'm a lousy typist and I hate seeing a typo get sent. I like the idea that Telegram allows an option to re-edit, but the TgM gate consumes the message almost immediately. Maybe add a feature to process incoming TgM messages at :00, :15, :30, :45 time slots according to the real time. ???

Here is the problem with that idea, as I understand it. Stas's gate has nothing to do with sending the message you type. It's just like Messenger or Text. His gate simply transfers between Telegram and Fido.

--- tg2fido gate v0.6.1
* Origin: Telegram to fido gate by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)

Here is the problem with that idea, as I understand it. Stas's gate has nothing to do with sending the message you type. It's just like Messenger or Text. His gate simply transfers between Telegram and Fido.

The gate software picks up the Telegram content and feeds it to Fido. I'm just suggesting that it doesn't feed immediately. Maybe it can wait at :00, :15, :30, and :45 time slots. Otherwise, this TgM/Fido experience is forcing me to double-check my messages before I "send" it. LOL. I like the spelling-check in TgM. At least I can fix those obvious things while still editing. But it would be nice to correct a post if I forgot to add a link or another sentence.

--- tg2fido gate v0.6.1
* Origin: Telegram to fido gate by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)

Hello, Charles Pierson.
On 10/12/20 6:43 PM you wrote:

The Telegram poll is insanely fast already. <G> I'm a lousy
typist and I hate seeing a typo get sent. I like the idea that
Telegram allows an option to re-edit, but the TgM gate consumes
the message almost immediately. Maybe add a feature to process
incoming TgM messages at :00, :15, :30, :45 time slots according
to the real time. ???

Here is the problem with that idea, as I understand it. Stas's
gate has nothing to do with sending the message you type. It's
just like Messenger or Text. His gate simply transfers between
Telegram and Fido. --- tg2fido gate v0.6.1 * Origin: Telegram to
fido gate by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)

Stas,

I know that it's improbable, but this is I believe a Telegram-Telegram message. There isn't a way to hold the Subj: on those is there, since Telegram doesn't do Subject?
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* Origin: Houston, TX (2:240/1120.976)

12 Oct 20 17:48, I wrote to Stas Mishchenkov:

--subj:subj as 3 dots--I think the first implementation using the
first 40chars of an original message was pretty good. When viewing in List mode on the fido side we would see something useful to trigger a memory of what the message might be about. With just the 3 dots, the
List view is not helpful. See attached pic. https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/pic/5f846caa.jpg

Interesting. My original message did not take the "--subj:" line that I put in there. :( We're back to dots. Did I forget the CR after the last 2 dashes?


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Hi Wilfred.

12 Oct 20 15:30:44, you wrote to me:

Hi Tommi,

On 2020-10-12 16:02:08, you wrote to me:

@MSGID: 2:460/58 00000354

MSGID looks fine now.

Well, normally you want to base your MSGID on the time, and not use a sequence number. Because
if you re-install the application (within 3 years), it will probably restart at 0 again, and
you have created duplicate MSGID's...

So true, but that zero-padded seq number is very valid.

'Tommi

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Hi, Wilfred!

12 ��� 20 16:33, Wilfred van Velzen -> Stas Mishchenkov:

If the Telegram msg_id is guaranteed to be unique over the life time
of the Telegram group, then it's ok... ;)

Unfortunately, I'm not completely sure about that.

Have nice nights.
Stas Mishchenkov.

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Hi, August!

12 ��� 20 17:48, August Abolins -> Stas Mishchenkov:

--subj:subj as 3 dots--

Here MUST be CR. Otherwise, false positives are possible.

Have nice nights.
Stas Mishchenkov.

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Hello, August Abolins.
On 10/12/20 6:53 PM you wrote:

The gate software picks up the Telegram content and feeds it to
Fido. I'm just suggesting that it doesn't feed immediately. Maybe
it can wait at :00, :15, :30, and :45 time slots. Otherwise, this TgM/Fido experience is forcing me to double-check my messages
before I "send" it. LOL. I like the spelling-check in TgM. At
least I can fix those obvious things while still editing. But it
would be nice to correct a post if I forgot to add a link or
another sentence.

Yes. But Telegram itself sends upon you hitting the send button. Once it is in the gate que, it's there. The only way I could see around that is if there were a "recall message" function like email programs might have.

I'm not sure that is a functionality Stas would have access to with his gatebot.

--
Best regards!
Posted using Hotdoged on Android
--- Hotdoged/2.13.5/Android
* Origin: Houston, TX (2:240/1120.976)

--subj:CR required, or false positives--
Hello Stas. I'm pretty sure I had added the CR after that post. Maybe the attachment (the photo) tripped the parser somehow?

I just did a screenshot from the NNTP feed at Tommi's. Doesn't appear to be a CR
https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/pic/5f848c12.jpg



--- tg2fido gate v0.6.1
* Origin: Telegram to fido gate by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)

Thanks for that. I see that there does indeed seem to be a missing CR. But I swear I pressed CR after the last pair of dashes. In Telegram I *have* to press backspace to produce two distinct dashes, and then I am quite accustomed to press CR after that so that the body of the message begins on a new line.

Maybe the photo attachment affected the result and caused the removal of any CRs?
--- tg2fido gate v0.6.1
* Origin: Telegram to fido gate by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)

--subj:subj test + photo--Here (attached) is what the post looked like on Telegram after I sent it.Note that my --subj was on a line by itself.And, for the sake of testing, THIS message has a Subj that I entered manually. However, this time, I am add two CRs so that there is a blank line before the body of the message.
https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/pic/5f849270.jpg


--- tg2fido gate v0.6.1
* Origin: Telegram to fido gate by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)

I saw no CR on the Fido side
--- tg2fido gate v0.6.1
* Origin: Telegram to fido gate by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)

I saw no CR on the Fido side

BUT there is on Telegram.

--- tg2fido gate v0.6.1
* Origin: Telegram to fido gate by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)

Hello, August Abolins.
On 10/12/20 8:29 PM you wrote:

--subj:subj test + photo--Here (attached) is what the post looked
like on Telegram after I sent it.Note that my --subj was on a line
by itself.And, for the sake of testing, THIS message has a Subj
that I entered manually. However, this time, I am add two CRs so
that there is a blank line before the body of the message. https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/pic/5f849270.jpg

Again, no CR is apparent on the Fido side.

--
Best regards!
Posted using Hotdoged on Android
--- Hotdoged/2.13.5/Android
* Origin: Houston, TX (2:240/1120.976)

Hello, August Abolins.
On 10/12/20 8:29 PM you wrote:

--subj:subj test + photo--Here (attached) is what the post looked like on Telegram after I sent it.Note that my --subj was on a line
by itself.And, for the sake of testing, THIS message has a Subj
that I entered manually. However, this time, I am add two CRs so
that there is a blank line before the body of the message. https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/pic/5f849270.jpg

Again, no CR is apparent on the Fido side.

--
Best regards!
Posted using Hotdoged on Android

Thanks for that. I guess the attachment breaks the message. And.. we're back to 3 dots in the subject too. :(

--- tg2fido gate v0.6.1
* Origin: Telegram to fido gate by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)

Hi, Charles!

12 ��� 20 09:47, Charles Pierson -> Stas Mishchenkov:

However, such MSGID does not violate the standard. In this case,
it is made on the basis of Telegram msg_id and allows replies from
Fido to be chained on the Telegram side.

I don't fully know or understand the standards. But for practical purposes, is MSGID the only thing FIDO uses to identify messages?

Yes you are right.

Have nice nights.
Stas Mishchenkov.

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Hi, Charles!

12 ��� 20 10:01, Charles Pierson -> Stas Mishchenkov:

give it some time to see how it goes.

Let's see how it goes.

Have nice nights.
Stas Mishchenkov.

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Hi, Charles!

12 ��� 20 18:43, Charles Pierson -> August Abolins:

Here is the problem with that idea, as I understand it. Stas's gate
has nothing to do with sending the message you type. It's just like Messenger or Text. His gate simply transfers between Telegram and
Fido.

It gets messages from the Telegram's group and sends them to Fido echo...

Have nice nights.
Stas Mishchenkov.

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That looks fine on the TgM side. TgM pulls in and shows the pic automatically. Let's see if THIS TgM reply will inherit the subject that you created on the Fido side.

HotdogEd uses a different host link for images attached than the gateway does. Strangely, I can't find that message on Tommi's NNTP yet.

--- tg2fido gate v0.6.1
* Origin: Telegram to fido gate by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)

HotdogEd uses a different host link for images attached than the gateway does.
Strangely, I can't find that message on Tommi's NNTP yet.

It should show up any time now. I received on my Italian point a little while ago.

--- tg2fido gate v0.6.1
* Origin: Telegram to fido gate by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)

It was there. I must have flipped past it. And I default to Hide read messages on HotdogEd.
--- tg2fido gate v0.6.1
* Origin: Telegram to fido gate by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)

Hello, Stas Mishchenkov.
On 10/12/20 10:37 PM you wrote:

Here is the problem with that idea, as I understand it. Stas's
gate has nothing to do with sending the message you type. It's
just like Messenger or Text. His gate simply transfers between
Telegram and Fido.

It gets messages from the Telegram's group and sends them to Fido
echo...

Exactly. So what August vis asking, a "recall message" like functionality, I don't think is possible is it?


--
Best regards!
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--- Hotdoged/2.13.5/Android
* Origin: Houston, TX (2:240/1120.976)

Hi, Tommi!

12 ��� 20 19:15, Tommi Koivula -> Wilfred van Velzen:

Well, normally you want to base your MSGID on the time, and not use a
sequence number. Because if you re-install the application (within 3
years), it will probably restart at 0 again, and you have created
duplicate MSGID's...

So true, but that zero-padded seq number is very valid.

And it can be translated back to the Telegrams message_id.

Have nice nights.
Stas Mishchenkov.

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12* _Oct 20 17:48, I wrote to S_tas M*ishch*e_nko_v:

--subj:subj as 3 dots--I think the first implementation using the first 40chars of an original message was pretty good. When viewing in List mode on the fido side we would see something useful to trigger a memory of what the message might be about. With just the 3 dots, the List view is not helpful. See attached pic. https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/pic/5f846caa.jpg

Interesting. My original message did not take the "--subj:" line that I put in there. :( We're back to dots. Did I forget the CR after the last 2 dashes?

---

Yes. CR *must* be.

--- tg2fido gate v0.6.1
* Origin: Telegram to fido gate by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)

Yes. CR must be.

The CR was included. The attached photo shows what my post looked like on the TgM side. My --subj was there + the CR to place it on a line by itself. Then my message as below it. What appears to be happening is that the CRs are being ignored if the message has an attachment.
https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/pic/5f84c027.jpg



--- tg2fido gate v0.6.1
* Origin: Telegram to fido gate by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)

It looks as it is not possible to have a CR in the file description (caption). --- tg2fido gate v0.6.1
* Origin: Telegram to fido gate by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)

Hello, August Abolins.
On 10/12/20 6:53 PM you wrote:

The gate software picks up the Telegram content and feeds it to
Fido. I'm just suggesting that it doesn't feed immediately. Maybe
it can wait at :00, :15, :30, and :45 time slots. Otherwise, this TgM/Fido experience is forcing me to double-check my messages
before I "send" it. LOL. I like the spelling-check in TgM. At
least I can fix those obvious things while still editing. But it would be nice to correct a post if I forgot to add a link or
another sentence.

Yes. But Telegram itself sends upon you hitting the send button. Once it is in the gate que, it's there. The only way I could see around that is if there were a "recall message" function like email programs might have.

I'm not sure that is a functionality Stas would have access to with his gatebot.

--
Best regards!
Posted using Hotdoged on Android

Fido's technology does not allow you to somehow control an already sent message.
The gate now works in about the same way as the usual Fido mail tosser, with the only difference that Telegram servers are used to store and read messages.

--- tg2fido gate v0.6.1
* Origin: Telegram to fido gate by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)

It looks as it is not possible to have a CR in the file description (caption).

True. But I wrote the message *first*. Then, I added the photo with an empty caption.

--- tg2fido gate v0.6.1
* Origin: Telegram to fido gate by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)

Hello, Brother Rabbit.
On 10/12/20 11:49 PM you wrote:

Yes. But Telegram itself sends upon you hitting the send button.
Once it is in the gate que, it's there. The only way I could see
around that is if there were a "recall message" function like
email programs might have. I'm not sure that is a functionality
Stas would have access to with his gatebot.
--
Best regards! Posted using Hotdoged on Android

Fido's technology does not allow you to somehow control an already
sent message. The gate now works in about the same way as the
usual Fido mail tosser, with the only difference that Telegram
servers are used to store and read messages.

That's what I was thinking. Once you send the message, it's sent.

--
Best regards!
Posted using Hotdoged on Android
--- Hotdoged/2.13.5/Android
* Origin: Houston, TX (2:240/1120.976)

Hi, August!

12 ��� 20 20:09, August Abolins -> All:

Maybe the photo attachment affected the result and caused the removal
of any CRs?

It's not a message with attachment. It works in other way. It is file with decripion (caption).

Have nice nights.
Stas Mishchenkov.

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Hi, Charles!

12 ��� 20 15:12, Charles Pierson -> Stas Mishchenkov:

Exactly. So what August vis asking, a "recall message" like
functionality, I don't think is possible is it?

This is not possible technically.

Have nice nights.
Stas Mishchenkov.

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This trick does not work for file descriptions. Perhaps I will deal with this later.
--- tg2fido gate v0.6.1
* Origin: Telegram to fido gate by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)

Strange. *Bold* (Ctrl+B) /Italic/ (Ctrl+I) end _underline_ (Ctrl+U) should work proper on Fido side.
--- tg2fido gate v0.6.1
* Origin: Telegram to fido gate by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)

This trick does not work for file descriptions. Perhaps I will deal with this later.

Also the file attaches such as:
https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/pic/5f848c12.jpg https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/pic/5f849270.jpg
..where recorded with those URLs but the did not render on your computer.
Maybe the problem is related?
BTW.. I miss the way you built the subject lines out of the first 40-char of a message. The 3-dots look bad (rendering the Subj unusable) on the fido side.

--- tg2fido gate v0.6.1
* Origin: Telegram to fido gate by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)

Also the file attaches such as:
https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/pic/5f848c12.jpg https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/pic/5f849270.jpg
..where recorded with those URLs but the did not render on your computer. Maybe the problem is related?
BTW.. I miss the way you built the subject lines out of the first 40-char of a message. The 3-dots look bad (rendering the Subj unusable) on the fido side.

Those links give me a 404 error.

--- tg2fido gate v0.6.1
* Origin: Telegram to fido gate by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)

On 10-12-20 15:34, Brother Rabbit wrote to Wilfred van Velzen <=-

Telegram side works fine too!

Now we start testing the new version. Everything was rewritten from scratch. There may be glitches. ;)

Cool. :)


... If you're thinking what I'm thinking, you need professional help.
=== MultiMail/Win v0.51
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Indeed. That is quite an achievement.

August does seem to have distinctive ideas. Good one's, but sometimes a bit too complicated to put into action within the perimeter of the program I think.

That was putting it very diplomatically. ? I have been told that I have crazy ideas! LOL In anycase.. when I report an issue, I like to posit a solution or an approach to one.

--- tg2fido gate v0.6.1
* Origin: Telegram to fido gate by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)

Oh.. and regarding Veleno, you are responsible to trigger the tossing inorder to see the new arrivals. Select option "7. Receive messages" in the side panel.
--- tg2fido gate v0.6.1
* Origin: Telegram to fido gate by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)

That was putting it very diplomatically. ? I have been told that I have crazy ideas! LOL In anycase.. when I report an issue, I like to posit a solution or an approach to one.

Very laudable approach.

I'm not a coder/programmer/developer whatever you want to call them. But I have a pretty good idea of how it works sometimes.

I used to work for a very large Oilfield company, in the warehouse, then shipping, then in the customer service, although my actual job dealt little with customers directly.

But I was recognized as a process expert for those three areas as well as logistics.

I learned how the entire process went, from a field engineer making his list of material requirements to him receiving them. Every step. Every outside purchase, reading production orders, all of it.

So when the company began a new program for shipping and logistics, I was heavily involved in the testing.

After they released the program to go live at my facility, which didn't work as planned, as I said it wouldn't, I spent weeks working 20 hour days 7 days a week forcing the system through while working with the developers to get it fixed for global release.

I then spent my remaining 3 years there "translating" between the end users and the developers to fix any issues, besides my normal job.

Needless to say, I got pretty good at recognizing what people wanted a program to do, what developers intended it to do, and figuring out how to explain to either group how and why it was or wasn't possible.

Come to think of it, that situation was very similar to this, taking multiple different programs that were seemingly incompatible and forcing them to work together.

--- tg2fido gate v0.6.1
* Origin: Telegram to fido gate by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)

Hi, Charles!

13 ��� 20 01:34, Charles Pierson -> August Abolins:

Also the file attaches such as:
https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/pic/5f848c12.jpg
https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/pic/5f849270.jpg
..where recorded with those URLs but the did not render on your computer.
Maybe the problem is related?
BTW.. I miss the way you built the subject lines out of the first 40-char
of a message. The 3-dots look bad (rendering the Subj unusable) on the
fido side.

Those links give me a 404 error.

Found and fixed a typo in the code. It should work correctly now.

Have nice nights.
Stas Mishchenkov.

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* Forwarded from Area : WIFI

Hi Stas,

On 2020-11-12 20:49:11, Charles Pierson wrote to me:

@MSGID: 2:460/58 00000006
@PID: tg_BBS_v0.6.2
@INTL 2:460/58 2:460/58
@CHRS: CP866 2
@TGUID: 1223717052
@REPLYTO 2:460/58 1223717052
@RealName: August Abolins 2:221/1.58
--- tg BBS v0.6.2
* Origin: Fido by Telegram BBS by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)
SEEN-BY: 124/5016 154/10 203/0 221/0 1 6 360 280/464 320/219

423/81 460/58

SEEN-BY: 460/777 1124 5858 5054/30
@PATH: 460/58 221/6 1 203/0 280/464

... There is no message body? ;)

If anything such as changing the Telegram Group name or photo is done,
a blank message shows on the Fido side.

Maybe it's possible the gate software detects these empty messages, and not send them through the gate to the fidonet side?

Bye, Wilfred.


--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)

https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/pic/5faeb1fe.tgs



--- tg BBS v0.6.2
* Origin: Fido by Telegram BBS by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)

Hi Charles,

On 2020-11-13 19:19:11, you wrote to All:

https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/pic/5faeb1fe.tgs

My browser doesn't know what to do with a .tgs file (clicked on the fidonet side). So it only gives the option to save it as a file... ?

Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)

Hi Charles,

On 2020-11-13 19:19:11, you wrote to All:

https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/pic/5faeb1fe.tgs

My browser doesn't know what to do with a .tgs file (clicked on the fidonet side). So it only gives the option to save it as a file... ?

Bye, Wilfred.

That's what a sticker does in the transfer.


--- tg BBS v0.6.2
* Origin: Fido by Telegram BBS by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)

Hi Charles,

On 2020-11-13 20:18:12, you wrote to me:

https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/pic/5faeb1fe.tgs

My browser doesn't know what to do with a .tgs file (clicked on the
fidonet side). So it only gives the option to save it as a file... ?

That's what a sticker does in the transfer.

So it's not really usefull to transfer stickers to the fidonet side...

Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)

Hello, Wilfred van Velzen.
On 11/13/20 8:52 PM you wrote:

Hi Charles, On 2020-11-13 20:18:12, you wrote to me:

https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/pic/5faeb1fe.tgs My browser

doesn't know what to do with a .tgs file (clicked on the
fidonet side). So it only gives the option to save it as a
file... ?

That's what a sticker does in the transfer.

So it's not really usefull to transfer stickers to the fidonet
side...

Not really, no.

--
Best regards!
Posted using Hotdoged on Android
--- Hotdoged/2.13.5/Android
* Origin: Houston, TX (1:229/426.67)

Hello Wilfred!

13 Nov 2020 17:33, Wilfred van Velzen wrote to Charles Pierson:

https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/pic/5faeb1fe.tgs

My browser doesn't know what to do with a .tgs file (clicked on the fidonet side). So it only gives the option to save it as a file... ?

tgs is equal to tar.gz, this have to be a suported mime in g0x.ru webserver as a mime defined mimetype


Regards Benny

... too late to die young :)

--- Msged/LNX 6.1.2 (Linux/5.9.7-gentoo-x86_64 (x86_64))
* Origin: I will always keep a PC running CPM 3.0 (2:230/0)

Hello Wilfred!

13 Nov 2020 17:33, Wilfred van Velzen wrote to Charles Pierson:

https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/pic/5faeb1fe.tgs

My browser doesn't know what to do with a .tgs file (clicked on the fidonet side). So it only gives the option to save it as a file... ?

tgs is equal to tar.gz, this have to be a suported mime in g0x.ru webserver as a mime defined mimetype

Regards Benny

... too late to die young :)

Are you sure enough? It looks more like some kind of MOJO object. That it probably is.
https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/pic/5fafac4f.jpg




--- tg BBS v0.6.2
* Origin: Fido by Telegram BBS by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)

Hello Wilfred!

13 Nov 2020 17:33, Wilfred van Velzen wrote to Charles Pierson:

https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/pic/5faeb1fe.tgs

My browser doesn't know what to do with a .tgs file (clicked on the fidonet side). So it only gives the option to save it as a file... ?

tgs is equal to tar.gz, this have to be a suported mime in g0x.ru webserver as a mime defined mimetype

Regards Benny

... too late to die young :)

What is TGS file?
Full format name of files that use TGS extension is GSTree Phylogenetic Tree Information. TGS file format is compatible with software that can be installed on Windows system platform. TGS file belongs to the Misc Files category just like 5478 other filename extensions listed in our database. The most popular software that supports TGS files is GeneStudio. Software named GeneStudio was created by GeneStudio, Inc.. In order to find more detailed information on the software and TGS files, check the developer?s official website.
https://www.file-extension.info/format/tgs


--- tg BBS v0.6.2
* Origin: Fido by Telegram BBS by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)

Hi Benny,

On 2020-11-14 09:43:28, you wrote to me:

https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/pic/5faeb1fe.tgs

My browser doesn't know what to do with a .tgs file (clicked on the
fidonet side). So it only gives the option to save it as a file... ?

tgs is equal to tar.gz, this have to be a suported mime in g0x.ru webserver
as a mime defined mimetype

Are you sure? .tar.gz Is usually shortend to .tgz, not .tgs.

Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)

Hi Brother,

On 2020-11-14 13:07:12, you wrote to Benny Pedersen:

Are you sure enough? It looks more like some kind of MOJO object. That
it probably is.

https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/pic/5fafac4f.jpg

That content is a JSON file...


Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)

Hi Brother,

On 2020-11-14 13:07:12, you wrote to Benny Pedersen:

Are you sure enough? It looks more like some kind of MOJO object. That
it probably is.

https://brorabbit.g0x.ru/pic/5fafac4f.jpg

That content is a JSON file...

Bye, Wilfred.

Yes. I also meant it. I was just a little wrong, because just picking in the insides of MOJO.


--- tg BBS v0.6.2
* Origin: Fido by Telegram BBS by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)

Hello Wilfred!

14 Nov 2020 17:03, Wilfred van Velzen wrote to Benny Pedersen:

Are you sure? .tar.gz Is usually shortend to .tgz, not .tgs.

tgs is not defined mimetype in linux, while tgz is equant to tar.gz file type

adding tgs to webserver will help if browsers know how to display a tgs file


Regards Benny

... too late to die young :)

--- Msged/LNX 6.1.2 (Linux/5.9.8-gentoo-x86_64 (x86_64))
* Origin: I will always keep a PC running CPM 3.0 (2:230/0)

Hello Wilfred!

14 Nov 2020 17:03, Wilfred van Velzen wrote to Benny Pedersen:

Are you sure? .tar.gz Is usually shortend to .tgz, not .tgs.

tgs is not defined mimetype in linux, while tgz is equant to tar.gz file type

adding tgs to webserver will help if browsers know how to display a tgs file

Regards Benny

... too late to die young :)

In this case, .tgs is the file type for Telegram Stickers. I wouldn't know where to begin making them readable elsewhere.


--- tg BBS v0.6.2
* Origin: Fido by Telegram BBS by Stas Mishchenkov (2:460/58)

Hi Benny,

On 2020-11-15 15:03:06, you wrote to me:

Are you sure? .tar.gz Is usually shortend to .tgz, not .tgs.

tgs is not defined mimetype in linux, while tgz is equant to tar.gz file type

That's what I'm saying. ;)

adding tgs to webserver will help if browsers know how to display a
tgs file

But browsers don't know how to display this file type, that's the problem...

Bye, Wilfred.

--- FMail-lnx64 2.1.0.18-B20170815
* Origin: FMail development HQ (2:280/464)

Hi Benny,

On 2020-11-15 15:03:06, you wrote to me:

Are you sure? .tar.gz Is usually shortend to .tgz, not .tgs.

tgs is not defined mimetype in linux, while tgz is equant to tar.gz file
type

That's what I'm saying. ;)

adding tgs to webserver will help if browsers know how to display a tgs file

But browsers don't know how to display this file type, that's the problem...

Bye, Wilfred.

They can be deactivated in the group if it becomes an issue.


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Hello Charles!

15 Nov 2020 18:18, Charles Pierson wrote to Benny Pedersen:

In this case, .tgs is the file type for Telegram Stickers. I wouldn't know where to begin making them readable elsewhere.

good, linux is ready for this new mimetype :)


Regards Benny

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Charles Pierson wrote to Benny Pedersen <=-

In this case, .tgs is the file type for Telegram Stickers. I wouldn't
know where to begin making them readable elsewhere.

Great, more unparseable extensions that aren't supported in FTN
messages?

I'm concerned that, while it's intruiging to opening Fidonet
messaging to other platforms, it's not improving the experience from
a Fido perspective (with the exception of having more eyeballs on the
messages posted on Fidonet)


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This is an example of how some of these Telegram messages look on the
Fidonet side. How is this an improvement, again?

My BBS environment is intentionally separate from the web. The joy I
receive from BBSing is specifically because of the lack of likes,
links, and forwarded content. I want to read what people are thinking,
not what they're clicking on.

If there's a way to share the concepts, ideas and content of Fidonet
through alternative means, I'm all for it. But keep what makes FTN
unique.



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Area: FIDONET Fidonet Futures discussions
Date: 11-15-20 20:28
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To: All
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Hello, Kurt Weiske.
On 11/16/20 9:48 AM you wrote:

Charles Pierson wrote to Benny Pedersen <=-

In this case, .tgs is the file type for Telegram Stickers. I
wouldn't know where to begin making them readable elsewhere.

Great, more unparseable extensions that aren't supported in FTN messages?

Apparently so. As I've said, it's something that can be disabled, and I would say probably should in the groups tied to Fidonet echos.

I'm concerned that, while it's intruiging to opening Fidonet
messaging to other platforms, it's not improving the experience
from a Fido perspective (with the exception of having more
eyeballs on the messages posted on Fidonet)

There are two ideas here, one is as a way to follow and participate in some Fidonet echos while away from your system.

The other is a way to introduce people to Fidonet that might not be familiar with it, and from there teaching them about Telnet, offline readers and the like.

I see that it has some potential, but I agree more work needs to be done.

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Hello, Benny Pedersen.
On 11/16/20 11:22 AM you wrote:

Hello Charles! 15 Nov 2020 18:18, Charles Pierson wrote to Benny Pedersen:

In this case, .tgs is the file type for Telegram Stickers. I
wouldn't know where to begin making them readable elsewhere.

good, linux is ready for this new mimetype :)

Linux is welcome to it.

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Hello :)

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Hi, All!

Forward from: obstenu

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Have a nice carrot!
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Glad to see you, Charles!

Hello, Benny Pedersen.
On 11/16/20 11:22 AM you wrote:
Linux is welcome to it.
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What's really interesting is that Windows is becoming the "new linux".. the WSL is getting more and more integrated and a lot of the way they are doing things makes it seem as if just like MacOS windows will eventually be a shell on top of a Linux-like OS... ?

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